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Re: pic: Prototype FLL Table

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Is there a 3.5" tall wall adjacent to the south side of the mat? If not, many teams will be sorely vexed.
Looks like maybe the inside of the table was built as 4' by 8', whereas the mat is more like 3'9" by 7'9". May need to be fixed for rev. 2.0 But still a very cool idea!
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Re: pic: Prototype FLL Table

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Awesome!! What is its total weight?
I'm thinking that tech specs can be found in the first thread: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/34265?

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Looks like maybe the inside of the table was built as 4' by 8', whereas the mat is more like 3'9" by 7'9". May need to be fixed for rev. 2.0 But still a very cool idea!
FLL mats have always been too small for the tables... In this case, it's an optical illusion due to a lack of black paint. The right side wall has a lot of reflection.
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Re: pic: Prototype FLL Table

Gorgeous looking table, I hope we get to see an entire set of these because that will be impressive.

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FLL mats have always been too small for the tables... In this case, it's an optical illusion due to a lack of black paint. The right side wall has a lot of reflection.
Not ALWAYS, time was (way back in the Volcanic Panic days) when the fields were tape lines on a white background and a good percentage of the field elements were wood the table was the right size Also, is there any reason why they do that?

Anywho. Gorgeous board, hopefully the insides can be done black at least.
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Also, is there any reason why they do that?
Ease of removal, I think. The problem is that you have to line it up right for teams because there will always be some team that is using distance from the wall on a fairly precise movement, and if your field is set up wrong (i.e., the black border line being under the wall instead of next to it), it'll throw them off and they complain.

Psst... My point on the mats still stands... Volcanic Panic and before didn't use mats...
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Ease of removal, I think. The problem is that you have to line it up right for teams because there will always be some team that is using distance from the wall on a fairly precise movement, and if your field is set up wrong (i.e., the black border line being under the wall instead of next to it), it'll throw them off and they complain.

Psst... My point on the mats still stands... Volcanic Panic and before didn't use mats...
Bah! That is true, Volcanic Panic didn't use mats. This will teach me to interchange mats and fields. (No it won't) I must say that I preferred the old wooden fields, probably cost more to make but they were certainly gorgeous. I would kind of like to see one of them (painted) placed on one of these tables.

I guess that removal makes sense, easier way might be to just have a corner that you cut to make it easier to remove. Lining up is a HUGE issue for teams and field setup issues shouldn't be a factor.
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FLL mats have always been too small for the tables... In this case, it's an optical illusion due to a lack of black paint. The right side wall has a lot of reflection.
If you look at the left side (north) you will see the sheet of Duralock touching the wall. That gap and the one on the left (south) look to be a good bit more than the usual half inch. Maybe Rich can elagorate
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