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Low center of gravity is good and all, but have you considered how the added weight will effect your acceleration with this year's tight quarters on the field?
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Re: pic: MORE Robotics 1714 Polycarb Wheels

wow...those things are nice... i wish that our wheels were that light
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Re: pic: MORE Robotics 1714 Polycarb Wheels

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wow...those things are nice... i wish that our wheels were that light
Wait, you wish your wheels were 2lb a piece? What are you using? Mecanums? If so you're not too far off at 2.5lb a piece..

I mean, 2lb isn't exactly light for a wheel
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Wait, you wish your wheels were 2lb a piece? What are you using? Mecanums? If so you're not too far off at 2.5lb a piece..

I mean, 2lb isn't exactly light for a wheel
well we are using 4 KOP AndyMarks, and 2 IFI's not too much more but those Lexan wheels look sick
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Re: pic: MORE Robotics 1714 Polycarb Wheels

Is this a 3 piece wheel, or a single piece?
If it is a single piece, what are the lateral screws for.

Beautiful wheels guys.
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Re: pic: MORE Robotics 1714 Polycarb Wheels

The wheels are layers of polycarbonate. Solid one inch material is expensive. As far as the weight, 2 pounds is an estimate, so I will weigh one at the meeting tomorrow.
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The wheels are layers of polycarbonate. Solid one inch material is expensive. As far as the weight, 2 pounds is an estimate, so I will weigh one at the meeting tomorrow.
Ah, I see now. Looks like 5 layers right? 3 inner and two outer.
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Re: pic: MORE Robotics 1714 Polycarb Wheels

Nice lookin wheels. Though if you wanted them to weigh as much as possible steel is a nice and dense material...
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Nice lookin wheels. Though if you wanted them to weigh as much as possible steel is a nice and dense material...
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Clearly I had no idea and was using the sarcastic smilie for no reason

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Re: pic: MORE Robotics 1714 Polycarb Wheels

I have to agree with Craig, there are definite acceleration issues when you increase the weight of a wheel. This happens because the added weight resists motion and will fight you every time you try to change your direction of rotation or speed of rotation. This means slower to get up to speed, slower to stop, and more force on everything that powers the wheel including the chain and axles.

I like the creativity to get the center of gravity lower, but I really think you should bring alternative wheels if these give you too much troubles in competition.
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Re: pic: MORE Robotics 1714 Polycarb Wheels

It wouldn't take that long to pocket these wheels if the weight became an issue, but knowing the guys on the drivetrain team this year, they probably took that into account when gearing, testing, etc.
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Re: pic: MORE Robotics 1714 Polycarb Wheels

Mass isn't the issue. It's the Moment of Inertia (resistance to spin, which is a function of mass and radius) that could be the issue.

Per my rough calculations, the moment of inertia of an AM performance wheel and 1714's Lexan wheel differ by about 25%, and the actual ratio is slightly lower than this as the AM wheel has extra material near the axle that I didn't account for. I assumed an AM wheel is a rim and 3 sticks that span the inner diameter and the lexan wheel was a solid piece of Lexan.

Since you guys have the robot, have you noticed any adverse effects on performance? I'm still of the opinion that these wheels are super slick.
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