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Stacking Boxes in A pyramid

If you stack the boxes in a pyramid shape, 2 on bottom and one centered on top does it count as a stack of three because it would be taller than two? Or does it not count as a stack?
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the measurement of the "stack" is based on height, not the number of boxes in the stack.

The situation you discribed would count as either 2 or 3 tall, depending on how the boxes were meshed together - it is more than likely this number would be three.

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To elaborate on Tom's post, the measurement for the multiplier will only be height, not total bins. Therefore, if you have a pyramid of 3-2-1, then it most likely would be tall enough to be considered a x4 multiplier. This means you will use 6 bins to get a 4x multiplier.
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This is really going to require an answer on FIRST's part. If I was judging this event, I would rule that the pyramid is one stack of a particular height. If it is considered to be the multiplier stack than all containers in the stack do not count for individual points.
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This is really going to require an answer on FIRST's part. If I was judging this event, I would rule that the pyramid is one stack of a particular height. If it is considered to be the multiplier stack than all containers in the stack do not count for individual points.
Are you saying, for example, that if you have a total 15 bins in your scoring zone but they ALL form a pyramid of 5,4,3,2,1 then you get no points because they are all discounted as part of the stack?
That would be like saying that any bins in contact with the tallest stack are part of the stack because they may be keeping the stack from tipping over and therefore are also discounted.

I don';t agree with that judgment. The only fair way to score it is to say that they would deduct the height equivalent bins and count the rest. In this example the score would be 6 x 9 = 54.

You are right we need more clarification on scoring!
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Are you saying, for example, that if you have a total 15 bins in your scoring zone but they ALL form a pyramid of 5,4,3,2,1 then you get no points because they are all discounted as part of the stack?
That would be like saying that any bins in contact with the tallest stack are part of the stack because they may be keeping the stack from tipping over and therefore are also discounted.

If removing one bin causes the pyramid to collapse , then yes they should all be discounted. If they are separate stacks in a pyramid shape then no, only the highest stack would be discounted. Again the test, if you remove a bin, even if it is touching other bins, and the pyramid does not fall then those bins are not part of the multiplier stack.
Anyone who has purchased the bins knows by now that a pyramid shape of alternating bins is not all that stable since the construction can not take advantage of the nesting feature of the bin tops and bottoms.
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