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Cubes not available

Looking at the suppliers of cubes, it appears that FIRST has put a hold on sales of these. Anyone know what is going on with that?
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Re: Cubes not available

If you are part of a school go to the cafeteria. Our cafeteria told us they get like 5 or 6 dropped off every day they can keep. They usually give them back because they had no use for them but now they are funneling them to the team. Might want to as your school.
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Re: Cubes not available

I'm not sure there's a hold on sales, just a lack of supply. They came in stock briefly yesterday at AndyMark and were out of stock again by the time I was able to try to order (maybe an hour later).

Maybe it's a manufacturer bottleneck at this point? I doubt the companies selling them underestimated demand by that much (although in fairness, they probably still have thousands of unsold fuel balls from last year, too...)
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Re: Cubes not available

In this weeks Lunch with Andy I think they said that they ordered less, but are able to order more quickly as the season progresses, they are made in the US so I imagine they'll be back in stock soon.

link to lunch with andy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXWR-YoJpr4
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Re: Cubes not available

Yea, I think it's just ordering caution.
I heard that the manufacturer of the crates at least can produce 30,000 a day for a short notice order.
Manufacturing the covers would take longer.
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Re: Cubes not available

It's actually the covers that I'm more interested in at the moment.

Anyone can actually order the exact same milk crates (minus the FIRST logo) directly from the manufacturer. The link stamped on the crates themselves (buymilkcrates.com) leads you to a company called Farm Plast, which has a webstore at http://www.milkcratesdirect.com.

Shipping is pricey, though. A bulk order split between several local teams might be a good option for some.
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Re: Cubes not available

If you're near a ULine1 warehouse, you can save shipping by picking up at will-call2. They have a product that might be close enough, if it isn't the exact same size. S-16317 has outside dimensions listed 13 1/8" x 13 1/8" x 11", though your color choices are limited to blue and black3

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Re: Cubes not available

If you saw how much fuel AndyMark had left
you would understand.
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Re: Cubes not available

Surely the FTC GDC can come up with a future game that makes use of last year's fuel, right?
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Re: Cubes not available

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It's actually the covers that I'm more interested in at the moment.

Anyone can actually order the exact same milk crates (minus the FIRST logo) directly from the manufacturer. The link stamped on the crates themselves (buymilkcrates.com) leads you to a company called Farm Plast, which has a webstore at http://www.milkcratesdirect.com.

Shipping is pricey, though. A bulk order split between several local teams might be a good option for some.
We currently have covers available on our site. They are made at a rate of about 1,200 a week and they are working flat our right now trying to fill orders. We were actually quite surprised at the demand as we sold out before Monday after kickoff.

The ones we have in stock now were ordered after kickoff and we already have them available. Once the innital demand tapers off a bit there will be no problems getting these when you really need a bunch of them at the end of build season if you rip them.
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Re: Cubes not available

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Surely the FTC GDC can come up with a future game that makes use of last year's fuel, right?
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ... I know! Let's put wiffle balls into milk crates!

edit: Then we can cap the crates with gears!
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Re: Cubes not available

I'm no sure where you folks are getting the info that this is a simple supply and demand problem. One supplier has posted "As per FIRST, this cannot ship until after January 18" That does not sound like a simple supply and demand problem to me.
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I'm no sure where you folks are getting the info that this is a simple supply and demand problem. One supplier has posted "As per FIRST, this cannot ship until after January 18" That does not sound like a simple supply and demand problem to me.
Which supplier? Have a link to the page/post?
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Re: Cubes not available

On 340 we have just ordered some cheap crates off of Amazon. The crates that FIRST has chosen to use are a fairly standard size for milk crates apparently. There are slight discrepancies between the two crates (and I mean almost un-noticeable), but your mechanism should be able to account for such a difference or else you have built it wrong. We only have to order more covers now.

If you don't want to pay for crates off of the internet, try going to any place that sells milk and ask them if they have any crates that you could possibly have (grocery stores, school cafeteria, etc.). Then, again, only the covers are necessary. Given, the covers are important, but if you are desperate enough plain crates will suffice.
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Which supplier? Have a link to the page/post?
I checked Vex Pro, Rev, and AndyMark. None of them have that message.
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