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Even taking so many theories, it can not be "Breaking the head" before the kick off, it is healthy, but many people are giving shot in the dark, as well as in other years. The only concept that we have are of new technologies, and this is good, but on the game can not know virtually nothing
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please
it has been 24 hours.
has no one in that area got a gps unit?
google is not accurate within about 50 feet.
i would like to know what is on the ground at the suspected coordinates.

please, will someone go make the measurement?

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Because incandescent and halogen bulbs create light through heat, about 90% of the energy they emit is in the form of heat also called infrared radiation.
It is important to distinguish between long IR and short IR. One is what we feel as heat, the other is what IR LEDs emit. Determining which is which is an exercise left to the student.
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Does this mean we can go back to sane wiring practices like using ribbon cable to wire our sensors, rather than being restricted to using big hunky 24awg or larger stuff? After all, they've been giving us 30awg PWM splitters all these years.
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it has been 24 hours.
i would like to know what is on the ground at the suspected coordinates.
please, will someone go make the measurement?
Me too.
Anyone??

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Exclamation GPS devices are not always accurate

keep in mind that a GPS device can be off by 50 feet as well, depending on the signal quality.
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True, although since the Feds switched off selective availability it's a bit better.

Nevertheless, there are ways to get really good accuracy, for example. I have used this to locate my radio antenna tower to within a few feet.

74 01'W 41 01'N is about 32 feet NE of the tower, if anyone cares.

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Another thought came to me today, and it wouldn't surprise me that others have thought of this as well.(If this has already been suggested/posted, please ignore mine.)
Could the fact that we were given GPS coordinates as a clue, mean that we will be receiving GPS coordinates, for positioning purposes, on the field? If so, the third coordinate would most likely be a height value. (Look at what is being used in Surveying and Construction these days. )

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Another thought came to me today, and it wouldn't surprise me that others have thought of this as well.(If this has already been suggested/posted, please ignore mine.)
Could the fact that we were given GPS coordinates as a clue, mean that we will be receiving GPS coordinates, for positioning purposes, on the field? If so, the third coordinate would most likely be a height value. (Look at what is being used in Surveying and Construction these days. )

Just food for thought.
Civilian GPS coordinants are only good to about 10 feet and GPS signals are notorious for dropping out in some structures (like a steel building) and in high EM areas.
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Civilian GPS coordinants are only good to about 10 feet and GPS signals are notorious for dropping out in some structures (like a steel building) and in high EM areas.
For civilian GPS, you are correct. In fact, when I backpack, my GPS is sufficient. If I know where I am within 3 meters, I'm really happy!

But remember, I said to consider what is used in surveying and construction. Think in the 1cm for X,Y and 1-3cm for Z accuracy range.
Good enough for robots???
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For civilian GPS, you are correct. In fact, when I backpack, my GPS is sufficient. If I know where I am within 3 meters, I'm really happy!

But remember, I said to consider what is used in surveying and construction. Thing in the 1 - 3cm accuracy range.
Good enough for robots???
Surveying and construction are done out doors and therefore will have cleaner signals.

To get to the 1-3cm accuracy from a non-military GPS you'd need 4-5 signals from different GPS satalites and time to syncronize them (hours). In addition, reflections cause havoc in such systems, nevermind the EM field around the robot.
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Surveying and construction are done out doors and therefore will have cleaner signals.

To get to the 1-3cm accuracy from a non-military GPS you'd need 4-5 signals from different GPS satalites and time to syncronize them (hours). In addition, reflections cause havoc in such systems, nevermind the EM field around the robot.
All I can say is, check this out.
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To get to the 1-3cm accuracy from a non-military GPS you'd need 4-5 signals from different GPS satalites and time to syncronize them (hours).
Aside from the Pseudolites mentioned above, look up Differential GPS - makes it trivial to get cm accuracy within seconds.
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