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09-19-2005, 10:14 AM
 muy dificil Registered User FRC #1611 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: C Port Posts: 16
Ah progrmming is hard

progrmming is muy dificil
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09-19-2005, 10:23 AM
 sciguy125 Electrical Engineer AKA: Phil Baltar FRC #1351 Team Role: College Student Join Date: Jan 2005 Rookie Year: 2004 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Posts: 519
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Did you have a particular problem you need help with or were you just making a general comment?

Programming isn't that hard once you get the hang of it. It has a steep learning curve like math. One day your trying to figure out 1+1, then the next day they throw x and y at you. Once you understand what x and y represent and learn to think in terms of functions, it's as easy as pi.
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09-19-2005, 10:25 AM
 muy dificil Registered User FRC #1611 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: C Port Posts: 16
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Quote:
 Originally Posted by sciguy125 Did you have a particular problem you need help with or were you just making a general comment? Programming isn't that hard once you get the hang of it. It has a steep learning curve like math. One day your trying to figure out 1+1, then the next day they throw x and y at you. Once you understand what x and y represent and learn to think in terms of functions, it's as easy as pi.
thanks i appreciate it
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09-19-2005, 01:03 PM
 KenWittlief . no team Team Role: Engineer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,211
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Problem with microprocessors is: they do exactly what you tell them to do

instead of what you want them to do!
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09-19-2005, 02:43 PM
 Mark McLeod Just Itinerant AKA: Hey dad...Father...MARK FRC #0358 (Robotic Eagles) Team Role: Engineer Join Date: Mar 2003 Rookie Year: 2002 Location: Hauppauge, Long Island, NY Posts: 9,649
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

You'll spend most of your time trying to figure out exactly WHAT you told it to do!
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09-19-2005, 07:57 PM
 Andrew Blair SAE Formula is FIRST with Gasoline. FRC #0306 (CRT) Team Role: Alumni Join Date: Feb 2005 Rookie Year: 2004 Location: Corry Posts: 1,193
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

One muy no-no...Keep your robot battery charged when working with code. You'll have an emotional breakdown trying to find out the problem with the code, only to change the battery and find it working fine.
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09-20-2005, 09:26 AM
 TotalDomination Registered User FRC #1611 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ga. Posts: 8
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Yes, right now we are trying to program the EDU bot and having problems downloading the program to the interface.
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09-20-2005, 09:40 AM
 muy dificil Registered User FRC #1611 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: C Port Posts: 16
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Quote:
 Originally Posted by TotalDomination Yes, right now we are trying to program the EDU bot and having problems downloading the program to the interface.
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09-20-2005, 09:45 AM
 TotalDomination Registered User FRC #1611 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ga. Posts: 8
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Yes i know, we press the program button and turn the LED orange like it is suppose to be, but when we go to download the program onto the interface the LED resets and starts blinking again.
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09-20-2005, 09:56 AM
 Dave Scheck Registered User FRC #0111 (WildStang) Team Role: Engineer Join Date: Feb 2003 Rookie Year: 2002 Location: Arlington Heights, IL Posts: 574
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Quote:
 Originally Posted by TotalDomination Yes i know, we press the program button and turn the LED orange like it is suppose to be, but when we go to download the program onto the interface the LED resets and starts blinking again.
I'm assuming that you're talking about the Program State LED. It will turn orange when the Program button is pressed. When you start downloading to it, the LED will flash. Is this what you're seeing? What do you see at the loader side? There should be a progress bar that shows the status of your download.
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09-20-2005, 09:57 AM
 TotalDomination Registered User FRC #1611 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ga. Posts: 8
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

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09-20-2005, 10:00 AM
 Dave Scheck Registered User FRC #0111 (WildStang) Team Role: Engineer Join Date: Feb 2003 Rookie Year: 2002 Location: Arlington Heights, IL Posts: 574
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Try holding the Program button on the RC down, then clicking and holding down the Download button on the loader. Release the Download button then immediately release the Program button. We've had problems in the past with older laptops not being able to download and this usually solved it.

Also, are you sure that your serial cable is good and that it is properly seated in the programming port?
#13
09-20-2005, 01:26 PM
 Ryan M. Programming User FRC #1317 (Digital Fusion) Team Role: Programmer Join Date: Jan 2004 Rookie Year: 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,507
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Sometimes hitting the reset button helps as well...
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10-03-2005, 09:17 AM
 TotalDomination Registered User FRC #1611 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ga. Posts: 8
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Ok now this is not working, we switch cables, we have tryed so many times to press the program button and at different times, but it will still not program
#15
10-03-2005, 10:26 AM
 JamesBrown Back after 4 years off FRC #5279 Team Role: Engineer Join Date: Nov 2004 Rookie Year: 2005 Location: Lynchburg VA Posts: 1,302
Re: Ah progrmming is hard

Well I rember exactly a year ago when i was on a rookie team with the exact same problem. It gets better, since them I have learned a third programming language and written 6 different auton codes for the bot, This time last year I could do little more than program a TI 83 in a dummed down version of basic, once you get it it just keeps coming.

Now to solve your problem (or atleast to help) are you uasing a laptop or desk top. With a laptop make sure it sees the port your using, with a desktop dont bother fighting with it if you have acess to another computer use that instead, I have an HP and an Emachine at home with Identical processors, memory and operating systems, however I can only load code from my HP and not my parents Emachine, go figure. Have someone take it home and try, It seemed to me that the edu rc is far more tempermental than its FRC counter part.

Like I said I was in the same place last year, I had no mentor help and no experience (I don't know what your mentor situation is like) If you need more help then PM or Email me. I'd be more than happy to give you a hand, also if you have a phone with free long distance Id be happy to give you my cell number let me know. Email is James_brown830@yahoo.com

James

Last edited by JamesBrown : 10-03-2005 at 10:32 AM.

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