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View Poll Results: Should IN make it harder to get all 4 rotors at DCMP?
No, keep all 3 pre-populated gears. 25 60.98%
Yes, remove 1 pre-populated gear. 5 12.20%
Yes, remove 2 pre-populated gears. 5 12.20%
Yes, remove all 3 pre-populated gears. 6 14.63%
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Re: Should IN change pre-populated gears for DCMP?

Heck in match 48 we even played defense against a human player who carelessly left not 1 but 2 gears sitting on the peg for us to return to play for them. Wish we had recorded it from the other side. Still not 100% sure there wasn't a foul in there, but he said it was an impulse and he did confuse just about everyone there as to what happened.
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Re: Should IN change pre-populated gears for DCMP?

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https://youtu.be/nJs6XHTCo0M

Look about 54 seconds into the video. Some teams play defense.
If anything that match is proof that defense can be effective. Both alliances came short of getting the fourth rotor spinning.
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Re: Should IN change pre-populated gears for DCMP?

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If anything that match is proof that defense can be effective. Both alliances came short of getting the fourth rotor spinning.
Yeah if four rotors are even more common in quals at INcmps, auto and defense are going to be the deciders in most matches in quals, definitely in elims.

The idea that strongly offensive robots should not play any defense at all has to change in Indiana if the starting gear number doesn't change, and I'm betting it won't.
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Re: Should IN change pre-populated gears for DCMP?

Think the issue is basically a game of chicken. When both alliances are capable of the fourth rotor, each alliance can make the decision to go for three rotors and defense where the win condition is stopping the fourth rotor and gaining points through other means(climb and fuel). Or they can go for four rotors themselves and either gain an edge through other means(climb and fuel) or hope the other alliance fails to get four rotors. I can see why it would be hard a lot of alliances to make this decision and I'd imagine going for four rotors ends up being the default strategy. I would argue like others though that adding pre-populated gears would make the game more interesting, not removing them.
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you know if there is one thing indiana can defend, its vocally defending their idea of playing terrible defense

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What defines "terrible" defense, eh Payne?
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Re: Should IN change pre-populated gears for DCMP?

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Heck in match 48 we even played defense
That's a great match to play defense in.
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Re: Should IN change pre-populated gears for DCMP?

Team Update 19 says No.
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