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View Poll Results: Do you respect your mentors?
Yes I love my mentors... I even nominated them for UFH! 56 50.00%
Yes I love my mentors.... but not enough to nominate them. 46 41.07%
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Survey - Who respects their mentors?

Answer the poll above. It's important.





Okay,
So maybe you're starting to think this isn't really a real poll.
You're right, It's not.
This is just to get a point across.

Being honored with the UFH award was a truly amazing experience for me.
It is an outstanding award, and an incredible program which hits at many of the core values of FIRST.

If you truly respect your mentors, why haven't you nominated them yet?

Take 5 minutes. It might mean the world to them if they win.

Respectfully,
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Re: Survey - Who respects their mentors?

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Okay,
So maybe you're starting to think this isn't really a real poll.
Maybe that has something to do with the fact that there isn't a poll attached to the post.

But I agree, nominate those who you think are Unsung Heroes. There are a lot of them out there.

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Re: Survey - Who respects their mentors?

This goes hand in hand with the fact that only 20% of teams nominate someone for the Woodie Flowers Award. This number needs to be much higher. A realistic goal for next year could be 50%. I will start a new thread on this.

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If you truly respect your mentors, why haven't you nominated them yet?

Take 5 minutes. It might mean the world to them if they win.

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How what? How to nominate someone. Go to Unsung FIRST Heroes or click on the current honoree and on that page click nominate someone.
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Re: Survey - Who respects their mentors?

Many people recognize the importance of awards like the Woodie Flowers Award and the Unsung FIRST Heroes Award. UFH is acknowledged by FIRST, and even received mention in David Kelso's winning description for the WFA this past year. Most people will tell you that the UFH is a worthy award, something that is needed in the FIRST community.

Let me give you some facts. Since UFH's inception, we have honored 23 UFH's, 25 regional WFA winners, and all 8 of the standing WFA winners (David Kelso falls in all of these categories).

However, more UFH trivia that you folks don't see behind the scenes:
- In the months of Sept. and Oct. this year, only one person was honored each month. Both were written by members of the UFH Committee.
- In the first month UFH was around, we brought in 22 nominations alone.
- Total, we have received 83 nominations. We received an additional 18 at this year's IRI.
- Of those 83 nominations, around 13-15 were repeated nominations. As you all may know, the Committee does not judge based on quantity, but on quality. Quantity has no effect on the judging process, lest one nomination better the other.
- Of those remaining 68, 17 of them did not make it through the first voting process.

The Committee is not working with substantial numbers. There is a group of 10 people, ranging all over the FIRST community, to help with the marketing, the voting, and the upholding of UFH. Lately, we have had such a slump in nominations, the Committee has mainly been working on marketing.

If it had not been for the IRI Award this year and the amount of submissions we received, UFH would not last through the end of the year. It is solely on the Committee's decision to use those nominations (and judge them the same way as electronic nominations) that is keeping our award afloat.

A few common misconceptions and myths:
- you may only nominate your own mentor
- the committee only awards people they know
- the committee denies nominations from people they don't like
- the committee has a ton of quality nominations to choose from
- I don't need to submit, because someone else on my team will/already has

This is more than a sarcastic thread asking for nominations, it's a plea for help.

Respectfully,
Amanda Morrison

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This goes hand in hand with the fact that only 20% of teams nominate someone for the Woodie Flowers Award. This number needs to be much higher. A realistic goal for next year could be 50%. I will start a new thread on this.
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As one of FIRST's Senior Mentors I'm now responsible for improving mentor recognition and retention count me in Andy. Here are a bunch of WFA nominations to inspire all of you.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...+inspira tion

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Re: Survey - Who respects their mentors?

As much as I respect my mentors and really like the things they do, I have to admit that in comparison to some of the UFHs there's a bit of intimidation. Sure, I shouldn't let it get to me that people like JVN and Scott and Libbie Ritchie have won, but it's hard to nominate someone that doesn't seem to shine so bright in comparison. How do you expect people to stand in the limelight when they don't seem to have as many accomplishments?
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Re: Survey - Who respects their mentors?

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As much as I respect my mentors and really like the things they do, I have to admit that in comparison to some of the UFHs there's a bit of intimidation. Sure, I shouldn't let it get to me that people like JVN and Scott and Libbie Ritchie have won, but it's hard to nominate someone that doesn't seem to shine so bright in comparison. How do you expect people to stand in the limelight when they don't seem to have as many accomplishments?
That should not stop anyone from nominating a mentor for UFH.....UFH's are not judged in comparison to the previous honoree's accomplishments. They are judged on what they have done, how they have affected you or your team, and how well you can communicate what they mean to you. Don't worry about JVN or other people like that, or what they have done...the last thing they want to do is discourage people from nominating others....

The UFH is a great thing for FIRST and needs people to nominate mentors. There are so many out there that deserve recognition and do not get it. I bet every team has at least one great mentor they can write about, proabably more. It doesn't take that much time, and great mentors are definetley worth it, so nominate someone!!!
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As much as I respect my mentors and really like the things they do, I have to admit that in comparison to some of the UFHs there's a bit of intimidation. Sure, I shouldn't let it get to me that people like JVN and Scott and Libbie Ritchie have won, but it's hard to nominate someone that doesn't seem to shine so bright in comparison. How do you expect people to stand in the limelight when they don't seem to have as many accomplishments?
I feel if a mentor can manage a team successfully for one year, that by itself is a big accomplishment. It's kinda easy for us kids to take them for granted, because we don't have to go through the trouble they do. This is no attack to you in any way, you know better about your mentor...

I come from a family with vast business(small and big) experience, so I have always been a helping hand. When I think of it in terms of a FIRST team, there is not a much of a difference, both take substantial amount of work and dedication, and anybody willing to put in so much effort should be rewarded and recognized in one way or the other. Moreover, isn't it human nature that if you're recognized/awarded for doing something, then you wanna do more. And most mentors do more than whats required, making our life(students) easier. If I had to look at my team, the person who puts in the greatest amount of work is our head coach(WayneC.). Who sits up late nights preparing for Brunswick eruption, plans team financial issues, weekly meeting plannings, general school work, personal life stuff, deals with stinking attitudes of kids and other people in order to keep the team going. It's just incredible.

I can't thank them by buying them a mercedes or so, but at least I can nominate them for awards like UFH and WFA.
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Re: Survey - Who respects their mentors?

Any mentor that inspires their students is eligible to be a UFH.

The rest is for the UFH Committee to decide. But really, if I saw a student who was very fired up and enthusiastic about this program, and showed me effectively, in a well-written essay exactly how they felt...

The Unsung FIRST Heroes program is for PERSONAL heroes. It's an award for those who haven't been previously honored. I always hear students talking about their mentors, but what do they do to show them the influence they've had on their life?

What about a fellow student? A parent on the team? An engineer from a sponsor?
Anyone is eligible. Nominate your heroes. Leave the judging to us.
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As much as I respect my mentors and really like the things they do, I have to admit that in comparison to some of the UFHs there's a bit of intimidation. Sure, I shouldn't let it get to me that people like JVN and Scott and Libbie Ritchie have won, but it's hard to nominate someone that doesn't seem to shine so bright in comparison. How do you expect people to stand in the limelight when they don't seem to have as many accomplishments?
Sara -

May I suggest that you might want to think about this a little differently? Don't think of the UFH nomination process (and other awards, particularly the WFA), as open only to those that have been with the program for 147 years, worked with 2,398 teams, volunteered at 312 events, and have their entire home decorated with FIRST memorabilia. To me, the perfect UFH is someone that may do things “on a smaller scale” but does them in an incredibly effective or personal manner.

Consider these two options. First, you have some executive who has enough authority that with just five minutes of effort they can get their multi-bazillion-dollar organization to write a check to FIRST (for a huge amount to FIRST, but 0.00023% of the company's gross annual budget). Second, you have the dedicated engineer or teacher that pours their soul into reaching just that one student on the team that really needs to be inspired. While I recognize the value of the contributions of the former, I am much more impressed by, and appreciative of, the deeds of the latter.

We have all seen it happen. Every team seems to have at least one of “those” students. You know - the one with no social skills, the perpetual outcast, the one who has never dealt with an adult as a peer, who spends most of the time sitting around just waiting for the team meeting to be over. But then that one mentor finds a way to break through and show that they really do give a crap, and everything changes.

Sometimes the mentor is just the first one in a long time to talk to them like a grown-up without being demeaning or condescending. Or maybe they just ask “hey, would you help me with this for a minute” and that is enough to get them to start to understand “I can do this too!” Or maybe the mentor assigns a significant responsibility to a student that doesn’t know they are ready for it yet, and let’s them learn their capabilities through a forced experience. Or just offers a few life lessons about why certain things happen, against the backdrop of working on a robot. Or sometimes it may take six months of constant bad jokes, shared junk food, and talk about old muscle cars and hair bands to gain a little respect. But all of a sudden two years have passed, and that student is now the captain of the team and is coming to the mentor to say “you know, that one kid over there really needs some help…”

A great mentor guides without giving the answers, teaches through discovery, demonstrates without lecturing, provides support from backstage, observes without hovering, and leads by example. If you can find someone that can do this successfully with even one or two students a year, then you have a mentor of heroic proportions.

A good engineer can calculate Fast Fourier Transforms on a table napkin, or have the kinematic singularity probability in joint-space for a R-P-R-R-P-R-Y manipulator memorized, or know that the velocity of sound on Mars is 260m/sec. But a mentor will help you discover that finding the answers to silly things like that can be its’ own reward, while in the background simultaneously filling out the paperwork required to keep the team running. That is what being a great mentor is all about. And those are the sorts of people that you should be nominating for UFH.

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...you have the dedicated engineer or teacher that pours their soul into reaching just that one student on the team that really needs to be inspired. ... I am much more impressed by, and appreciative of, the deeds of the latter.

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Re: Survey - Who respects their mentors?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's a lot harder to notice the small accomplishments when you're overwhelmed with big ones. But, I have to admit that now UFH's are in a whole new light for me. Thanks for everyone's explanations and helpful hints
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