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Possible problems to a water game

I want to know what you guys think could be an issue in a water game in FIRST. I think a water game with actual water could be very difficult for new or poor teams due to the need to water proof your robot.
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Re: Possible problems to a water game

Electrocution could be a concern.
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Re: Possible problems to a water game

Needing to install a pool at every event venue. You think field setup is a pain now? Try setting up a clear waterproof above-ground pool that can withstand robots beating on its walls in two days. And you better set it up perfectly the first time, or you just flooded some poor high school's gym. Lord help any small offseason events.
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Re: Possible problems to a water game

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Needing to install a pool at every event venue.
Not even just at event venues. Teams need a place to test their robots and many teams don't have access to a pool. And right now, FRC has a relativity low cost of failure. If your robot gets in a bad collision, something bends. Meh. If it happens under water and it ruptures your outside case, that's the entire cost of your control system that just went down the drain. Also potential for fire.

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Needing to install a pool at every event venue. You think field setup is a pain now? Try setting up a clear waterproof above-ground pool that can withstand robots beating on its walls in two days.
Transparent Aluminum, that's the ticket, laddie.

We will have to wait until the cost goes down, a lot.
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Re: Possible problems to a water game

Water is very heavy as well, so even IF we get a perfect field that will never leak and flood the venue, the floor will not even be able to support the weight of the water.

Maybe if there was an inch of water the robots had to tread through?
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Transparent Aluminum, that's the ticket, laddie.
Are we trying to contain a pair of whales here?
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Transparent Aluminum, that's the ticket, laddie.

We will have to wait until the cost goes down, a lot.
So what you're saying is...Drone game confirmed?

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Have we decided to play the game of "How many Kamens can we hit in the face with a game object?" Cuz I don't want to play that game.
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Have we decided to play the game of "How many Kamens can we hit in the face with a game object?" Cuz I don't want to play that game.
I think 1519 wins that game
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Between that and Libby taking a frisbee in 2013... That's the joke.
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Have we decided to play the game of "How many Kamens can we hit in the face with a game object?" Cuz I don't want to play that game.
1519 WAAAAYYYYY ahead of ya

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Re: Possible problems to a water game

The problem with the water game will be the water. And the game. Probably just the entire water game.
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Water is very heavy as well, so even IF we get a perfect field that will never leak and flood the venue, the floor will not even be able to support the weight of the water.

Maybe if there was an inch of water the robots had to tread through?
The robots would float anyway if they continue to use pool noodle bumpers. A few inches of water should work!
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The robots would float anyway if they continue to use pool noodle bumpers. A few inches of water should work!
My team prepared for the water game in our CAD this year! We messed up when adding bumpers to our model, shortly after build season started, and when we (the CAD team) hid them to get them out of our way once the frame was established, we forgot to remove them when we calculated our weight. With SolidWorks, we set the bumpers to solid aluminum, making our robot a ridiculous weight and us all freaking out about why everything was so heavy in our final CAD model. Aluminum bumpers will come in handy for a water game
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