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Re: 2013 Game?

What if the game has to do with landing on Mars? There could be an autonomous where you have to get your robot to a certain part of the playing field (landing on Mars) to score points. The field could simulate rough terrain and be, well, rough. To score you could maybe have to move different pieces to different parts of the field to score (2005ish). The end game could be moving your robot to a different part of the field, but this one would be harder to get to than the rest of the field (Up a ramp? In a pit? UNDERWATER?!?!?! The possibilities are endless!) I think that an unconventional field could be fun!
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Yup, so we don't have to shell out exorbitant amount of cash for those practice fields!
That. and having to store the thing...
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What if the game has to do with landing on Mars? There could be an autonomous where you have to get your robot to a certain part of the playing field (landing on Mars) to score points. The field could simulate rough terrain and be, well, rough. To score you could maybe have to move different pieces to different parts of the field to score (2005ish). The end game could be moving your robot to a different part of the field, but this one would be harder to get to than the rest of the field (Up a ramp? In a pit? UNDERWATER?!?!?! The possibilities are endless!) I think that an unconventional field could be fun!
If they were modeling it after Curiosity--which is a cool idea--I'd lean towards a "climb an mountain" endgame. (king of the hill?) The rough surface for all/a lot of the field is worrying though: sounds expensive, at least for those of us practicing on the same tile, gym floor or donated carpet every year. (Plus people would dislike it just because it resembles the L-word.)

The idea is an intriguing one, though. It seemed to me that the GDC was talking about turning more seriously/permanently to straightforward, fast-paced sports in order to increase "spectator friendliness" and answer the perennial "ok, but why bother to [stack tetras, hang tubes, drag trailera] in the first place?" question. But the idea of mimicking to some laymen-appreciable extent an impressive scientific feat, while still maintaining an interesting, friendly, strategic, everything-a-good-FRC-game-has-to-be game is really very cool, if it's possible.


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What if the game has to do with landing on Mars? !
But what if us and 2614 don't want to be landed on
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rough surface for all/a lot of the field is worrying though: sounds expensive, at least for those of us practicing on the same tile, gym floor or donated carpet every year. (Plus people would dislike it just because it resembles the L-word.)
What if it is tiled rough terrain? Each tile would be the same, and then they would give you some in your KOP. Then you wouldn't have to have an entire floor of terrain, just the tiles that you got. And then you could practice on them!
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What if it is tiled rough terrain? Each tile would be the same, and then they would give you some in your KOP. Then you wouldn't have to have an entire floor of terrain, just the tiles that you got. And then you could practice on them!
Certainly better than buying regolith sheets! But again, it's less about having whole floors available and more about supplying 2,500 driving surfaces that are noticeably rough (but meet all other requirements) -- somebody's paying for it, whether there's samples in the KOP or not. It's an interesting game design challenge.

Just issue everyone triangular wheels (or cover the floor with really big corn kernels)
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Just issue everyone triangular wheels (or cover the floor with really big corn kernels)
everyone will be screaming in torment, saying "Wasn't Regolith an Lunacy wheels enough?!?!?"
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Re: 2013 Game?

I was just looking up some trends, and since 1996 (the year before the first game not involving balls), every game in an even-numbered year has included a ball as a main game piece and every game in an odd-numbered year has not*, bar 2001, which is widely considered the worst FRC game ever. We all know the GDC loves bucking trends, but will they dare to break this pattern again? I doubt it....

* and 2009, but those orbit balls weren't really "balls", right?
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Seeing as the just had a couple of shooting games and another racking game, I think they're going back to a stacking game.
Yes this is my opinion as well. I think the chances of having a stacking game are pretty high (unless they do something very unexpected and unique) and I would really like to see them do one.
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Yes this is my opinion as well. I think the chances of having a stacking game are pretty high (unless they do something very unexpected and unique) and I would really like to see them do one.
I'd be okay with this as long as it has nothing to do with Stack Attack. Though I never played it, it kind of looked awful to me in terms of scoring complication.

I'm going to go brush up on active drive systems, and linear lift systems.

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Re: 2013 Game?

I'm really hoping for tetras. An arm/elevator will be almost a sure deal, after a game that didn't require them. As always, an awesome drive train will be required to do well.

You heard it here first folks. The robot will definitely need wheels and will probably have an arm.
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I'd be okay with this as long as it has nothing to do with Stack Attack. Though I never played it, it kind of looked awful to me in terms of scoring complication.

I'm going to go brush up on active drive systems, and linear lift systems.

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From what I've read, there turned out to be very little complexity at all because, since stacks were way too easy to knock over, no one actually built them. I'm not usually a big fan of the kinds of anti-defense rules FIRST has used lately, but maybe they would have helped that game or one like it...
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No game piece could be more shamelessly recycled than the tetra. On top of that, what new stuff can you really do with it? A mashup of Frenzy with odd game pieces could be entertaining. I like the idea of "physical challenges" the robot has to perform on an object to pull itself up, stack other robots, or balance itself as the endgame portion. They could theme it to a mission to Mars where your alliance has to collect resources of various shapes, sizes and values into 2 of your alliance's movable bins, and doing something like putting the bin on your robot gives you bonus/multiplier points. 2 bots balancing one bin each receives x points, one bot balancing two bins earns y, and spilling your bin earns you a z penalty.

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I think this thread has become such a staple on CD every year that no one has a problem with it being in the general forum.
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