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2017 IRI Rule Changes

Below are the planned rule changes for the 2017 IRI.

As always, our intent is to make small adjustments based on what we have learned during 2 months of game play and not do anything that significantly impacts design decisions teams made based on the official game.

For 2017:

Remove 1 pre-populated gear from the airship.
Why: Increase the 4 rotor challenge.

+5 pounds weight allowance.
Why: Allows for repairs and minor modifications without major work to maintain 120.

Draft Order 1-8, 1-8, 8-1.
4 team Elimination Alliances, No Back-Ups.
Any 3 robots can play any match.
Alliance determines driver station placement.
Why: Just because.

G13. Robot Contact in the Retrieval Zone.
This will be modified to allow contact in certain situations. We don't know the exact wording.
Why: Maintain the penalty for blocking or interfering with gear retrieval, but remove the incentive to push a robot into the zone to draw the penalty.
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

I thought sure you'd go with max 2 climbs counting. That would eliminate some bad luck breaks, and open up sine interesting defensive plays
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G19. Robot Contact in the Retrieval Zone.
This will be modified to allow contact in certain situations. We don't know the exact wording.
Why: Maintain the penalty for blocking or interfering with gear retrieval, but remove the incentive to push a robot into the zone to draw the penalty.
I, for one, greatly appreciate the new rule update! But I think you mean G13, not G19.
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

I figured that there might be more changes on the number of gears and gear placement. I expected the free gear being removed.

What also would've been interesting would be if you took the prepopulated gear from the third rotor and moved it onto the fourth rotor. This then greater separates the good gear bots from the less adequate gear bots without changing the overarching challenge of the fourth rotor.

Even though this will not have as great of an effect on match outcomes at IRI as it would championships, it could still cause a swing that could be the deciding factor in certain matches.
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

I was really hoping to see some adjustment to the climbing aspect of the game; either putting a maximum of 2 climbs per alliance or reducing the points per climb.

Hopefully the talent at IRI will reduce the number of times luck of schedule can kill an alliance by missing a single climb in qualifications. This was probably my #1 gripe with the game this year.
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

I was hoping for a rule permitting full-court shooting from the retrieval zone
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

I like these changes.

In addition, spring variation should be reduced by methods well known to experienced field staff. There's no reason match outcomes should be determined by dodgy field maintenance at the IRI.

Re: G13 -- I think the IRI committee will find it difficult to draw a sharp line between preventing interference with gear retrieval and preventing forced technical fouls. I think robots on the alliance that owns the retrieval zone should always have the right of way when moving toward it; consequently, calling C08 instead of G13 requires an alert referee following a sequence of actions that lead up to a wrong-color robot being touched while in the zone, and then inferring intent. Intent is much easier to ascribe when the robot is right in front of its driver.
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

So the reserve gear stays?
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

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Below are the planned rule changes for the 2017 IRI.

Remove 1 pre-populated gear from the airship.
Why: Increase the 4 rotor challenge.


The Rule Committee intentionally did not say which pre-populated gear.
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No 100-point 4-rotor bonus in qualifying (in addition to the RP)? Awwww.

I like the restrained nature of these changes.
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Re: G13 -- I think the IRI committee will find it difficult to draw a sharp line between preventing interference with gear retrieval and preventing forced technical fouls. I think robots on the alliance that owns the retrieval zone should always have the right of way when moving toward it; consequently, calling C08 instead of G13 requires an alert referee following a sequence of actions that lead up to a wrong-color robot being touched while in the zone, and then inferring intent. Intent is much easier to ascribe when the robot is right in front of its driver.
That, I think, is why C08 was so infrequently called. I've called it once or twice, usually when there was no excuse for the contact.

Proposal: Start with doing the same thing done to the Secret Passage rule last year (both robots must be in the zone for the foul to be issued). THEN work with what's left to finish the job.
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

These are some interesting changes. It will be intriguing to see how this affects fuel bots.
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Re: 2017 IRI Rule Changes

Wait so you're not going to increase the point value of balls from 1/3 to 3 pts per ball.
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No fuel buff because California teams too strong #wewonbothchamps
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