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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing it!
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

I've been debating whether to upload this or not, but here goes:

This guide was originally intended for novices joining our team and was written over a 2-month period, following the epic spanking that was our 2018 FRC season. It's a work in progress and is somewhat disjointed in places.

If you are like me and have students who repeatedly propose using "a thing...that goes into a thing...and sort of...does stuff" during brainstorming and prototyping stages, then this might be for you. It's more to acquaint students with the different "things" in FRC and give brief descriptions of the "stuff" they can do.

It is purposely designed for those with short attention spans and features a lot of pictures and brief snippets of text.

It is, however, totally not finished, hence the rather abrupt ending.

Please let me know what you think and any changes you suggest.

Also, I did a lot of hasty Google image searches, so apologies to anyone who sees their photos or graphics used without permission.
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

This is amazing, I love it. Thank you so much for sharing!

If you ever make any revisions, I'd suggest adding flex wheels to the wheel section! They've got tons of options in durometers and sizes, and are fantastic for intakes and other roller subsystems. I doubt I'll design a robot without them ever again.
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

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This is amazing, I love it. Thank you so much for sharing!

If you ever make any revisions, I'd suggest adding flex wheels to the wheel section! They've got tons of options in durometers and sizes, and are fantastic for intakes and other roller subsystems. I doubt I'll design a robot without them ever again.
I believe they are referred to as compliant wheels in the wheel subsection titled "other wheels"...or something like that.
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That's very comprehensive! Thanks for all your hard work.
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

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I believe they are referred to as compliant wheels in the wheel subsection titled "other wheels"...or something like that.
Gotcha - the section only mentions AndyMark Compliant Wheels, which are a specific type of wheel only available through AndyMark. Since other sections mentioned multiple variations and suppliers for different robot parts, it seemed like Flex Wheels were being left out. There's definitely similarities between the two, but they're different in terms of use cases and available mounting styles. I figured I'd bring it up since more options for teams is never a bad thing.

That aside, this guide is going to be mandatory reading for my team. The thoroughness makes it an invaluable training resource that I can't wait for my students to use!
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Gotcha - the section only mentions AndyMark Compliant Wheels, which are a specific type of wheel only available through AndyMark. Since other sections mentioned multiple variations and suppliers for different robot parts, it seemed like Flex Wheels were being left out. There's definitely similarities between the two, but they're different in terms of use cases and available mounting styles. I figured I'd bring it up since more options for teams is never a bad thing.

Completely understand. I tried to go with the generic/proper term for each component, but a few placeholders got left along the way. In this particular case I found a vendor who makes urethane wheels and rollers that they referred to as compliant, so I took that as corroboration. This was a tricky one.

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Wow. I'm humbled. Thanks.
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

I haven't finished looking through this, but this legit looks incredible. I wish I'd had this when we started years ago. I've already sent this to a rookie team in our area.
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

This is seriously fantastic. Nice work and thanks for sharing it.
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

Brian Gray, you are my hero. This is fantastic!

Many, many people will be using this great resource during this year and years to come.

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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

Brian,

What a fantastic collection of resources you've put together! That being said, I've noticed some of my own photos and resources thrown into it (Specifically the latch section and those immediately before and after, as indicated by choice in photos.), as well as that of others that I've used in sources I suspect you used.

You openly admit that it's incomplete; In a more complete version, do you intend to link / reference the year & team of the robot you're exhibiting a feature of? I specifically did that myself in my own resources, as I knew that some people wanted to do additional research on their own, and a team number and season is a good starting point.

Thanks for putting together a cohesive collection of resources, I'm sure this will be used for many years to come!
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

This is amazing. Perhaps the best I've ever seen. I can't begin to imagine the time this must have taken to put together. You have done an incredible service for the FIRST Robotics community with this one. The students you work with are so fortunate to be guided by someone with your drive and passion for it. Thank you for sharing!
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

There is so much information that I could populate a preseason from this single resource! This is fantastic!

Just as a suggestion that will help teams make weight - not all gears need to be steel. My team has found that most gears are fine as 7075 aluminum (a la VEXPro) and typically we only need steel gears for very high loads (ie catapult crank, pinions).

Also, I highly recommend the pixy (https://pixycam.com/pixy-cmucam5/) as another camera option - its cheap and easy and makes vision tracking very accessible.
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Re: paper: Roboting: A Guide for Total Noobs

So I like a lot of this presentation but I noticed some of the information is misleading or just incorrect in places. I'd be worried about just giving this to new students.

The slide on live vs dead axles is particularly troubling. The descriptions of using omni wheels in tank drives seems inconsistent as well with some of your example photos. You also mention a limit of only 4 air tanks on a robot that hasn't been in the rule book for over a decade. A lot of FTC specific items get used in example photos that don't really make sense, like tilerunner.
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