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FRC Top 25 Final Results. Recap Show Link

Thank you to everyone who tuned in last night for FUN Recap and the Final FRCTop25 for 2017. We had nearly 400 votes overall for the community final FRCTop25 and mixed with the Looking Forward Top 25 we are pleased to put together a encompassing product that reflects both regular season and championship play.

Big thank you to FRC Frank Merrick for coming on the show to talk Steamworks and Championships. You can tell that Frank is focused on continual improvement of all of our experiences in FIRST and we also found out which type of Pizza he prefers (you won't believe his answer (click-bait ftw)).

View the episode here.

FRC Top 25 Read Me

While no poll is perfect we at FUN wanted to come up with a way that could reflect on a team's entire season performance. We knew that if we did a Post-Champs Community Poll that it would be both primarily focused on only champs performance and pretty biased for St. Louis teams. We reached out to Looking Forward to provide an Post-Champs Expert Poll that would then be weighted against the Pre-Champs Community Poll to reflect a teams overall performance for 2017. This provides a good indicator of a teams improvement from Pre to Post-Champs Some teams moved a lot and some moved slightly in the rankings.

Below are the results for this composite poll and we have also included the top 100 teams on the Pre-Champs Community Poll. We will not be displaying past the Top 25 for the composite poll and you can catch Looking Forwards post later this week. If you want to know where a team has landed on the community poll outside of the top 100 please post below or pm me.

Spoiler for FRC Top 25 2017 Composite Poll:

Rank Team Looking Forward Pre-Champs Community
1 254 1 1
2 118 3 3
3 1986 4 5
4 1678 5 4
5 2056 7 2
6 1114 13 6
7 973 2 18
8 195 10 11
9 971 15 9
10 33 16 8
11 610 17 7
12 125 8 17
13 987 12 13
14 1690 14 12
15 2122 11 19
16 330 18 15
17 148 23 10
18 1619 20 23
19 2481 27 16
20 4613 24 20
21 1574 31 14
22 180 19 28
23 604 25 29
24 2767 6 53
25 3310 9 50



Spoiler for FRC Top 25 Pre-Champs Community Poll:

Rank Team
1 254
2 2056
3 118
4 1678
5 1986
6 1114
7 610
8 33
9 971
10 148
11 195
12 1690
13 987
14 1574
15 330
16 2481
17 125
18 973
19 2122
20 4613
21 16
22 2168
23 1619
24 188
25 3339
26 1538
27 179
28 180
29 604
30 4976
31 624
32 2451
33 4939
34 2230
35 3309
36 67
37 3683
38 1477
39 217
40 2231
41 4586
42 2337
42 3015
44 225
45 469
46 2062
47 2590
48 558
49 4039
50 3310
51 359
52 2471
53 5406
54 2767
55 48
56 3238
57 3663
58 8
59 340
60 1305
60 1285
60 1577
63 1241
64 5687
65 1732
66 303
67 1323
68 4917
69 27
70 4488
71 20
72 111
73 11
74 6075
75 2046
76 234
77 114
78 1519
79 1987
80 71
80 3130
82 772
83 3847
84 1746
85 365
86 5614
87 4678
88 910
88 2830
88 4343
88 6342
92 2468
93 3630
94 4946
95 5842
96 2609
97 1640
98 503
99 231
100 3132



Thank you everyone for a fantastic FRC Top 25 season. We will be piloting some new content during the off-season and will look for your feedback. Special thank you to all of our subscribers on Twitch who help financially support FUN.
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Expert Poll Rankings
  1. 254
  2. 973
  3. 118
  4. 1986
  5. 1678
  6. 2767
  7. 2056
  8. 125
  9. 3310
  10. 195
  11. 2122
  12. 987
  13. 1114
  14. 1690
  15. 971
  16. 33
  17. 610
  18. 330
  19. 180
  20. 1619
  21. MISSING
  22. MISSING
  23. 148
  24. 4613
  25. 604

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Where did 1058 end up?
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Where did 900 end up?
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Where did 1675 end up?
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Re: FRC Top 25 Final Results. Recap Show Link

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Expert Poll Rankings
  1. 254
  2. 973
  3. 118
  4. 1986
  5. 1678
  6. 2767
  7. 2056
  8. 125
  9. 3310
  10. 195
  11. 2122
  12. 987
  13. 1114
  14. 1690
  15. 971
  16. 33
  17. 610
  18. 330
  19. 180
  20. 1619
  21. MISSING
  22. MISSING
  23. 148
  24. 4613
  25. 604

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Re: FRC Top 25 Final Results. Recap Show Link

FUN is really fun! Good Guy Frank is an outstanding guest -- I had to watch the recording because I joined late.

The difference between pre- and post- CMP polls was interesting. 973 was a bit underrated by the pre- CMP community. 2767 and 3310 were significantly underrated.
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Re: FRC Top 25 Final Results. Recap Show Link

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Where did 1675 end up?
On the Pre-Champs Community Poll:

FRC900 T140th
FRC1058 T200th
FRC1675 T305th

Forgot to mention that there were 687 teams that received a vote in the Pre-Champs Community Poll.
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I think they should just leave 21 & 22 as "missing," so that all the other teams that aren't mentioned can say

"yeah, that's us."

For example:

"Where did 2168 end up? Oh, 22? Yeah, that's us."
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I think they should just leave 21 & 22 as "missing," so that all the other teams that aren't mentioned can say

"yeah, that's us."

For example:

"Where did 2168 end up? Oh, 22? Yeah, that's us."
^+1! Just plug in your favorite team number.

BTW, 2168 was pretty high up on my list.
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Our team's were in the same hotel! Loved those T-shirts (with formula for average)!
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Re: FRC Top 25 Final Results. Recap Show Link

Super disappointed in this poll. 5687, The Outliers, from NE District have been absolutely robbed. I don't think there is any reasonable argument that says they are not the best gear bot in the world. I have seen no other robot that can get 7 gears a match, every match. IMO they should've cracked the top 10.

Edit: Changed number to appease Bailey, since he has data and I have general feelings and hyperbole.
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I have seen no other robot that can get more than 9 gears a match, every match.
I love me some Outliers,

but this data is just absurd....

125 was at 4 events with the Outliers this year (Boston, Pine Tree, NEDCMP, Carson) and they never peaked above 7 gears in a single match.

Don't get me wrong, they are for sure a top 3 Gear Runner in the world, but check your numbers, pal.
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Super disappointed in this poll. 5687, The Outliers, from NE District have been absolutely robbed. I don't think there is any reasonable argument that says they are not the best gear bot in the world. I have seen no other robot that can get 7 gears a match, every match. IMO they should've cracked the top 10.

Edit: Changed number to appease Bailey, since he has data and I have general feelings and hyperbole.
Did you actually scout other events or are you just going on what you've personally seen? Also since you don't even have data on why 5687 is the best in the world how can you say they are better than 604/2168/610/4939/340/3310/etc etc etc?

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Finally got the chance to watch the beginning of the stream today. Thank you so much for the congratulations, and of course for all that you do for FUN and FIRST! Looking forward to next year and to see what you have in store for the off-season!
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