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Re: Einstein 2014

The four alliance system is alot like the 3 alliance system in FTC. If you didnt know FTC is 2v2 and yet their alliances are always 3 team. I love the strategy that can come out of an extra alliance member in special situations. In 2010 my FTC Champion alliance constantly swapped which ones of the three of us were on the field.

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Re: Einstein 2014

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Alright, I'm going to make my Einstein predictions the same way I make my FRCTop25 votes...
No regional bias, right?

Just for fun, here's my guess: All 8th Alliances!
Archimedes: 2590, 3467, 2959, 781
Curie: 3476, 177, 68, 2648
Galileo: 973, 3683, 3098, 193
Newton: 910, 330, 846, 2415

Curie beat Archimedes, Galileo beats Newton, Galileo beats Curie.

Disclaimer: I realize a lot of these picks won't be around for the 8th alliance, or even that round of selections. No offense is meant by these predictions, all 16 of these teams are top contenders in their respective division.
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Re: Einstein 2014

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The fourth picks will be .....Goalie Bots! With Cheesy Vision!
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I haven't actually seen a goalie bot in action at all, but this is something I would love to see (esp. w/cheesy vision). Goalie zones are there for a reason, and this could seriously damage a team's ability to score in auto. In teleop, low goals and missed triple assists negate the usefulness of the goalie, but chasing down a blocked auto ball could be the death of an alliance.

Has anyone seen a goalie bot in action, or better yet, has a video of it?
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Re: Einstein 2014

A good goalie bot could change the outcome of a match, but there aren't too many good goalie bots out there.

I also think we'll see considerably lower scores and lots of upsets than usual because of the crazy defense. The teams that win their divisions will be ones where all three members of the alliance play defense when they don't have the ball.

I'm curious to see what teams do with the 4th member of the alliance. If I'm understanding the rules correctly, you could be a world champion, without ever playing in an elimination match.
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Re: Einstein 2014

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Truth.

I haven't actually seen a goalie bot in action at all, but this is something I would love to see (esp. w/cheesy vision). Goalie zones are there for a reason, and this could seriously damage a team's ability to score in auto. In teleop, low goals and missed triple assists negate the usefulness of the goalie, but chasing down a blocked auto ball could be the death of an alliance.

Has anyone seen a goalie bot in action, or better yet, has a video of it?
Check out 973 for red in Auton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=819idQnXwxw#t=18

I expect to see at least someone like this on Einstein or at least as a prominent force in division elims. Too many multi-ball autons are susceptible to this strategy.
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Out of all these predictions I'm seeing 971 less than I would have thought. Undefeated this season is quite a achievement especially considering one of those regionals was SVR. I'm not going to claim they are assured to win anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see them on Einstein.
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Re: Einstein 2014

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Truth.

Has anyone seen a goalie bot in action, or better yet, has a video of it?
We got CheesyVision working over the weekend. we'll see how it plays out.

1323 almost gets the block here.
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Re: Einstein 2014

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Truth.

I haven't actually seen a goalie bot in action at all, but this is something I would love to see (esp. w/cheesy vision). Goalie zones are there for a reason, and this could seriously damage a team's ability to score in auto. In teleop, low goals and missed triple assists negate the usefulness of the goalie, but chasing down a blocked auto ball could be the death of an alliance.

Has anyone seen a goalie bot in action, or better yet, has a video of it?
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Re: Einstein 2014

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Out of all these predictions I'm seeing 971 less than I would have thought. Undefeated this season is quite a achievement especially considering one of those regionals was SVR. I'm not going to claim they are assured to win anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see them on Einstein.
Agreed. Are people assuming they'll lose in finals or something similar?
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Re: Einstein 2014

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No regional bias, right?

Just for fun, here's my guess: All 8th Alliances!
Archimedes: 2590, 3467, 2959, 781
Curie: 3476, 177, 68, 2648
Galileo: 973, 3683, 3098, 193
Newton: 910, 330, 846, 2415

Curie beat Archimedes, Galileo beats Newton, Galileo beats Curie.

Disclaimer: I realize a lot of these picks won't be around for the 8th alliance.
4th pick? Ouch.
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4th pick? Ouch.
You know what they call the graduate with the lowest GPA in med school? Doctor.

You know what they call the fourth robot in the alliance that wins Einstein? Champion.
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Re: Einstein 2014

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Has anybody interested in this thread taken a class on statistics?

To attempt a prediction of the outcomes of the divisions is an exercise in futility.

Too much data and random choices involved.
(Remember, these are high school students scouting and speculating. It's actually kind of cool, creative, and quite random.)

Two ideas:
- Not about the Robot.
- Einstein will be awesome this year (Goalie Bots!).

That being said, here is my exercise in futility:
Archimedes: 2056, 195, 319
Curie: 118, 4334, 4055
Galileo: 67, 558, 2337
Newton: 1114,16, 58

Haz Warren Buffett my 1 billion dollars?

The fourth picks will be .....Goalie Bots! With Cheesy Vision!

No scores over 200 on Einstein.
Remember, you heard it here FIRST
Someone must have been paying attention in New England The real magic is not what teams statistically look the best, it's which bots compliment each other and which teams can play together effectively. I like the second pick for Archimedes and Galileo and the third pick for Curie.
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Archimedes: 33+27+2056+1477
Curie: 1718+118+254+469
Galileo: 67+836+148+225
Newton: 1114+1986+16+610

Final: Curie vs Newton

Winner: Curie
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Curie
125,469,2478,1501
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Winner Curie
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Curie: 254, 987, 2478, 4161
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Finals: Galileo vs Curie

Holy crap! Our entire team is overjoyed that we have been noticed by two different posters in this! (Seriously, our team members who follow CD were freaking out) You've made our day. Thank you both for the shoutouts!
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Re: Einstein 2014

Obviously people were watching the LVR webcast or archived vids of eliminations
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