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My child just got put in charge of the Chairman's submission today, which the teamhasn't been started yet. It's the first year of doing FRC. Looking at the information on this site, it sounds like it should have been started in mid-December.

What advice can I give to help the team through this? What resources will the team need to complete this in time? I already forwarded the really good Chairman's information that Team 1114 put online.

https://www.firstinspires.org/sites/...ns-seminar.pdf

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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

Run it by an outside party before submitting. https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...hreadid=161183
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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

Best advice, help the kid(s) get organized. Sit down with them and brainstorm some of the team's activities that you want to highlight in the essay, and the short answer questions. There probably will be some "homework" of tracking down information of what events happened, how many people were there, what was the impact etc.

As far as manpower to meet the deadline, I have 2 students working on it now on a Google Doc. Seems to be working out ok with the 2 of them in the same document, just working on different sections at a time.

Leave time for editing, the character counts can be tricky to get just right. I'd recommend editing in smaller sections at a time, and the commenting function in Docs or Word works very nicely for this.

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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

Is this the team's first year for FRC or your child's? How well does your child know the team?
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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

You've maybe already located this resource but just in case:
https://www.firstinspires.org/resour...ward-resources
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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

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Is this the team's first year for FRC or your child's? How well does your child know the team?
The team's been around forever. This is her first year. She's shown leadership, which is why I think she got it.
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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

Has the team submitted before? If so, does she have access to those resources?

The questions and essay are supposed to focus on the team's recent history, but if you have last year's submission at hand, it should be pretty straightforward to update it for this year.
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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

One word of advice, please don't rush through the submission. Make sure you have everything in the essay and video you want and double check from an outside source. I.E. Have another parent or teacher read over everything for spelling, grammar, and such. Also, please relax don't stress over Chairmans, while yes it is an amazing award and great achievement, make sure they have fun doing it.
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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

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Has the team submitted before? If so, does she have access to those resources?

The questions and essay are supposed to focus on the team's recent history, but if you have last year's submission at hand, it should be pretty straightforward to update it for this year.
Yes, they've submitted before and those docs were reviewed yesterday. The thing is that They have been running a couple of programs for years that have been getting better. But they've presented it previous years and so the judges think they know what team is presenting (but it's really quite different). So they were hoping to do something a little different this year.
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One word of advice, please don't rush through the submission. Make sure you have everything in the essay and video you want and double check from an outside source. I.E. Have another parent or teacher read over everything for spelling, grammar, and such. Also, please relax don't stress over Chairmans, while yes it is an amazing award and great achievement, make sure they have fun doing it.
Thanks for the advice! I tell my kids "don't turn a small disaster into a larger one". In other words, take a deep breath, do what's necessary, and have fun?
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Thanks for the advice! I tell my kids "don't turn a small disaster into a larger one". In other words, take a deep breath, do what's necessary, and have fun?
Yep even with something as mundane as Chairman's. Have them go off the wall (or in a better analogy) go outside the box with the video. Last year we based our Chairman's video off of an episode of "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" and had the kids write their own script in context to the episode. Can't remember for the life of me which one it was though.
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Yes, they've submitted before and those docs were reviewed yesterday. The thing is that They have been running a couple of programs for years that have been getting better. But they've presented it previous years and so the judges think they know what team is presenting (but it's really quite different). So they were hoping to do something a little different this year.
Doing something different sounds like a great idea, if there's the time to effectively execute on that. To me, it sounds like there's probably not. Either way, there's not a lot of time, so the student needs to quickly decide on a direction to go (old submission with tweaks, or some major rewrites, or totally new submission, etc.) and then go unequivocally in that direction.
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Re: Concerned Parent, 10 days to Chairman's submission

The best advice I can give: have your child get a partner or two who have knowledge of the team and can write well.

Break up the work. Spilt up the mini essays and someone take on the larger essay.

Focus on what's due now. Only focus on the essays. The video and the presentation can be done after the essays are done. The video can be edited on the way to your first competition. These essays will make or break you! Spilt up the work and put your head down and just... write.

Take a deep breath and start writing.
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Doing something different sounds like a great idea, if there's the time to effectively execute on that. To me, it sounds like there's probably not. Either way, there's not a lot of time, so the student needs to quickly decide on a direction to go (old submission with tweaks, or some major rewrites, or totally new submission, etc.) and then go unequivocally in that direction.
This is also A+ advice.
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