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Re: ALS Bucket Challenge, CD everyone is challenged

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With all the complaining about "wasting water", it makes me wonder if you truly believe that the amount of water being used in this challenge is greatly affecting those without. How much water is wasted by the world daily? Or by you for that matter? Do you turn off the shower while soaping up? Do you have low-flow toilets? Do you recycle and filter your urine? Whatever the argument, do whatever you feel will help the ALS Association. And please don't judge those who are getting out awareness, regardless of their means. As long as it's safe, go for it!
That's not a valid point at all. It's an ad hominem attack, first off. Secondly, just because there are other wasteful water habits doesn't mean that every waste of water is acceptable.
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That's not a valid point at all. It's an ad hominem attack, first off. Secondly, just because there are other wasteful water habits doesn't mean that every waste of water is acceptable.
Well, this has to be the first waste of water that is used for a use that the human race revolves much to greatly around. Attention. And in my opinion, it is the most useless thing for one to use water for.
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Well, this has to be the first waste of water that is used for a use that the human race revolves much to greatly around. Attention. And in my opinion, it is the most useless thing for one to use water for.
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Ever been to Vegas? Golf courses in the middle of a desert.
Well Vegas is it's own case, considering how different it is from the average city. Comparing things in Vegas to things around the world in general is like comparing a picture of a robot and a robot made by 254. It's an unfair and extremely far out comparison.
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Food is food. Food is useful, as I am sure many of you will agree. Food feeds you. Food is not what you post on social media to get a lot of attention (well, some people do, but those are very interesting people). Dousing yourself with a bucket full of ice cold water is used to get attention, not to feed yourself. Water is something that should be used not as a way to get attention in a silly scheme, but to cure your thirst. Not once have I ever said that we shouldn't try and save water other ways. But those other ways have become the way of life, a necessity. Water to bathe yourself. Water to brush your teeth. Should water be a way of attention too? Because attention really shouldn't be a way of life. Use water usefully, at least usefully in the context of the modern day society.

Plus, if you are desperate to partake in the challenge, wait till the winter and dump an all natural bucket of water over your head. Or snow.

#snowbucketchallenge
The point of dousing oneself with water is to get attention. That's the entire point of this ALS campaign.

I had not heard of ALS until I heard about the challenge. I agree that it does waste water, but worrying about such trivial matters raises an interesting point:
Survivors of ALS will use a lot of water. By dumping buckets of water, we are raising awareness to raise money to find a cure for ALS. Considerably less water will be dumped in buckets than surivors of ALS will consume. And to me, I think that it's okay to use a bit of extra water so that these people can live.
Essentially, wasting a few buckets of water are the smallest concern people can have with this campaign.
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Re: ALS Bucket Challenge, CD everyone is challenged

Here is an interesting link from earlier today to start off this post:
http://www.thehealthsite.com/news/ho...ised-till-now/


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Food is food. Food is useful, as I am sure many of you will agree. Food feeds you. Food is not what you post on social media to get a lot of attention (well, some people do, but those are very interesting people). Dousing yourself with a bucket full of ice cold water is used to get attention, not to feed yourself. Water is something that should be used not as a way to get attention in a silly scheme, but to cure your thirst. Not once have I ever said that we shouldn't try and save water other ways. But those other ways have become the way of life, a necessity. Water to bathe yourself. Water to brush your teeth. Should water be a way of attention too? Because attention really shouldn't be a way of life. Use water usefully, at least usefully in the context of the modern day society.

Plus, if you are desperate to partake in the challenge, wait till the winter and dump an all natural bucket of water over your head. Or snow.

#snowbucketchallenge
Some of the things you just said are plain silly. This isn't something that should be compared to food because the goal of the ice bucket challenge has nothing to do with food. Are you calling The ALS Association silly? Well that right there doesn't make much sense. Pouring a bucket of water on your head is a way to raise awareness about this association and to raise funding. It may seem like a strange and even wasteful way to raise awareness but it's something that's fun to do and something that's fun to challenge your friends to do also.

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Dousing yourself with a bucket full of ice cold water is used to get attention
In some ways, yes, it is used to get attention and by getting attention they are raising awareness for ALS and also large quantities of money are being donated which helps with research. So, by the rules of the ice bucket challenge, if you refuse to partake in the dumping of ice cold water upon your head you must donate, so below is the link to where you can donate.
http://www.alsa.org/donate/

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Hate to break it to you, but snow is water. Doesn't that seem a bit hypocritical of your main points?
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Re: ALS Bucket Challenge, CD everyone is challenged

Wow, 4 pages of arguments over water......

Is it the off season or what?
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Hate to break it to you, but snow is water. Doesn't that seem a bit hypocritical of your main points?
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Wow, 4 pages of arguments over water......

Is it the off season or what?
Arguing over water is just prep for this years water game.
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So, by the rules of the ice bucket challenge, if you refuse to partake in the dumping of ice cold water upon your head you must donate, so below is the link to where you can donate.
http://www.alsa.org/donate/
By the rules of the ice bucket challenge, you donate no matter what, not just if you don't complete it. That seems to be getting lost in all the noise about this.

The point was never to just "raise awareness" by taking 30s to post on Facebook...it was to raise awareness AND donate.
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Re: ALS Bucket Challenge, CD everyone is challenged

The challenge involves people getting doused with buckets of ice water on video, posting that video to social media, then nominating others to do the same, all in an effort to raise ALS awareness. People can either accept the challenge or make a donation to an ALS Charity of their choice, or do both.

http://www.alsa.org/news/archive/ice...challenge.html
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The challenge involves people getting doused with buckets of ice water on video, posting that video to social media, then nominating others to do the same, all in an effort to raise ALS awareness. People can either accept the challenge or make a donation to an ALS Charity of their choice, or do both.

http://www.alsa.org/news/archive/ice...challenge.html
We can quibble about this all we want, but as this first started making the rounds, it was donate $10 and dump ice all over yourself (I also saw $25), or don't do it and donate $100.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...ket-challenge/ details this, as do other sites.
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[b]People can either accept the challenge or make a donation to an ALS Charity of their choice, or do both.
Or, they could choose to ignore the request. As, undoubtedly, most of the users on CD have done.
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42 million donated as of yesterday. Seems like a lot of people are donating which is great.
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Re: ALS Bucket Challenge, CD everyone is challenged

If you are challenged and don't donate to something you feel worthwhile, (some folks have a problem with some of ALS' research approaches) you are a putz. The goal is to raise money. The videos are just the social media aspect of the fundraising drive. If you want to make a video of you getting dumped with ice cold water to put on the interwebs, that's your prerogative. Don't call it the ALS cold water challenge if you don't actually donate.
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