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[FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

We're back, and working on making it better than ever!

As a reminder, everybody drafts an alliance of 3 (or more) teams per event (or district system), no more than 5 players per team, miss 6 drafts in a row and get a warning about how you need to start showing up before you are removed from the league.

The rules, for reference.

Now, I should note that we're working on a few items, notably cleaning up the waiver system and adjusting the scoring. Take a look at this thread to follow what's being discussed. Everything should be cleared up (and the rules updated again) before drafting begins.

And as a reminder, drafting starts around Thanksgiving and ends around Kickoff. Schedule will be determined as events are announced.

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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

The poll is definitely trending one way, so let's go with that.

Reminder on the options:

1) Move the start date back a week, so the week before Thanksgiving.
2) Run three-a-days on select days, once or twice a week. One is a list-only draft: get your list in by draft start, or get a random team. [noted to possibly open early]
3) Run two "extra" drafts per week in "long format" (open X day, times enforced on Y day). [Noted that this would also cover running all drafts long-format]
4) Run drafts after Kickoff.

Scores from the initial poll:
1) 2
2) 8
3) 4
4) -1

So obviously, we'd like to wrap up before Kickoff. Now let's weight some things here...first option if someone picked two.

1) 1
2) 7
3) 4

Well, obviously we don't like moving start earlier. That flips the sole vote for 1 to a 2.

2) 8
3) 4


Looks like a once-or-twice-a-week 3-draft night, with draft #3 being list-only.

So... Here's what I'm thinking on that. #3 draft on those nights opens 2 nights early (normally I'd open a draft 1 night early but that's just how I roll). You can pick without a list once it's open. At "Draft Start Time", anybody that doesn't have a list in gets randoms for any remaining picks.

Just to pick on a draft... Let's say that Orange County draws a #3 for December 12. (NOT the actual draft date, folks--but it would be funny if that happened.) On December 10, it's posted at about normal drafting time. Between draft open and 7 PM on 12/12, pick as normal. BUT! After 7:00 PM, picks aren't accepted, the draft is finished with lists and randoms. Draft ends by 7:15 or so (cue trades from everybody who forgot to put in a list).


tl;dr: There will be "list-only" drafts as 3rd drafts on certain days, but they'll be open for a couple of days before cutoff and live picks will be able to be made during that time. (Think of it as putting guaranteed teams on your list.)


I should have a schedule out this weekend sometime. I figure on trying to get about one off-day (FULLY off, if possible) per week.

P.S. Lists are always appreciated by the draft runners, even if the draft isn't list-only.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Honestly there probably isn't any issue combining the two together, 2-3 drafts a night, open a bunch early so that people can pick early. Like open the whole draft cycle at the same time. It's a decent compromise for both folks.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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Honestly there probably isn't any issue combining the two together, 2-3 drafts a night, open a bunch early so that people can pick early. Like open the whole draft cycle at the same time. It's a decent compromise for both folks.
Let's put it this way: I don't put any limits on how early any given draft opens for picking...

I'll probably restrict the waiver drafts a little bit, though.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

We have a (tentative?) schedule. Before I get to the link, here's the color code:
Pale blue (seen on the very first draft)--round start, new random list. Currently spaced at 14 drafts/round, but subject to change as players add (or drop).
Green: "List-only" drafts. They'll open a couple days early, but on the noted day, they're done at draft start time. See immediately preceding discussion.
Blue: Waiver drafts. There will be a full explanation on those once the Key Committee has decided one or two minor sticking points.

Drafting spreadsheet

A couple of other notes: There's a tab for trade requests and another for draft results. I'll fill in the team names and makeup later--the first sheet also tracks attendance, so that is actually important.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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We have a (tentative?) schedule. Before I get to the link, here's the color code:
Pale blue (seen on the very first draft)--round start, new random list. Currently spaced at 14 drafts/round, but subject to change as players add (or drop).
Green: "List-only" drafts. They'll open a couple days early, but on the noted day, they're done at draft start time. See immediately preceding discussion.
Blue: Waiver drafts. There will be a full explanation on those once the Key Committee has decided one or two minor sticking points.

Drafting spreadsheet

A couple of other notes: There's a tab for trade requests and another for draft results. I'll fill in the team names and makeup later--the first sheet also tracks attendance, so that is actually important.
Looks decent, but I will take a look at scaling each of the drafts for DCMPs now in the 2017 year review thread. I have a feeling to make things balanced we will have to add a few district draft days/teams.

EDIT Here are the thoughts.

EDIT 2 Why don't we draft districts first? Their team list in general is way more stable than regionals. Less dropped teams, and incomplete team lists.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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Looks decent, but I will take a look at scaling each of the drafts for DCMPs now in the 2017 year review thread. I have a feeling to make things balanced we will have to add a few district draft days/teams.

EDIT Here are the thoughts.

EDIT 2 Why don't we draft districts first? Their team list in general is way more stable than regionals. Less dropped teams, and incomplete team lists.
Replies in the other thread. On the "draft districts first"--they've historically been last to allow them to get themselves in order, as far as who's where. We always had problems with that. Remind me about this discussion next year and I'll see about sprinkling the district drafts around/putting them up front.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

If more people don't sign up I can always run some more; just let me know. I don't mind running two a night; but would like to give others the opportunity if they so desire it.
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If more people don't sign up I can always run some more; just let me know. I don't mind running two a night; but would like to give others the opportunity if they so desire it.
I'll probably add a couple more myself, but want to try to keep everything on EST. If I'm running a draft, odds are it'll be PST instead (other than the Slot 3 ones).

Oh, and heads-up: There'll be a bit of a shuffle in the district part of the schedule. We're looking at MI being a 4-night draft (!) with 3/4 moving to Slot 3. Something something "equal representation". MI to 4 rounds, ONT to 2, and there might be one or two others. See Brennan's link.
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Oh, and heads-up: There'll be a bit of a shuffle in the district part of the schedule. We're looking at MI being a 4-night draft (!) with 3/4 moving to Slot 3. Something something "equal representation". MI to 4 rounds, ONT to 2, and there might be one or two others. See Brennan's link.
I made that shuffle. Looks like NE might need one more round but that might be doable by adding an extra pick each night instead of a full extra night. MI is a "long" draft for 3/4, and the 4th is the night before Kickoff.

Reminder to anybody looking to run a draft: Pick a night you're available and sign up, we've got good coverage on the weekends but not so much midweek.


FYI, and I'll post this one every time I open a draft: Unless I'm running a waiver draft, all my draft times will be at 7 PM PST. That would be because I'm working at 7 PM EST. Time difference, 3 hours. (Which would be why I'm mainly running Slot 3's list-only and waiver drafts.)
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

SANDBAG dropping out for 2018. Other time commitments came up. Have fun everyone, we'll be watching from afar.

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9) The Kellen Hill Fan Club (Yes_ChuteDoor, GarbanzoBeans, PACOSTACOS999, k_a_roes)
10) Relegated (JosephC)
11) The Lunch Company (Niklas701, Vale, wired_mike, BenjaminWard)
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14) Hammerheads (PrathikM, Roboshant, GrantR, Arpit2206)
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

As a heads-up, we forgot to include an item in the scoring section. Rules have been updated to include the following line under the scoring formula:

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Picking Points: 17 - (Alliance # or accepted pick #, as appropriate for the team in question)
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

For the draft runners out there, I've put a minor update to the draft running sheet (https://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/3042) online. Just some time adjustments, and adding an automatic rotation function for the player list (for anybody like me who likes to be lazy and make the computer do the thinking).
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