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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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So, run all drafts as long drafts is not an option (or at least more drafts).
In my experience of however many drafts 4 years of FF is, people get bogged down by the number of drafts. It's easy to pick early when you have one draft a year, but when you have 70? That's different. People almost never pick early.

Also that's option 3.

Count my vote for #2. Keeps the season short, minimizes dropped/swapped/added teams throughout the season on waivers.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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2) Run three-a-days on select days, once or twice a week. One is a list-only draft: get your list in by draft start, or get a random team.
Count my vote for this. I assume these three-a-days will be on weekends?
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

I'd like to vote for option 3 or 1. They'd both keep things moving without increasing pressure much on any individual night or during build season.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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So, run all drafts as long drafts is not an option (or at least more drafts as long drafts)?

I viewed this ^^^ as different than 3, but I'll put my vote on option 3
I'd consider that as an extended 3.

Personally (and in this case not officially), I'm in favor of 2, primarily because it makes the draft take minutes not over an hour. (Occasionally, one will finish before it officially started--but only if there are a lot of lists.) Sure it takes a little more work to get the lists in and together, but if they're in in time then everything works.

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1) 1
2) 3
3) 2
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

FYI: 63 FRC regionals, 10 FRC DCMPs (some of which take two days), 3 waiver drafts--we're one over our current slot limit.

As noted, we have options including to extend the drafting schedule in either direction (before Thanksgiving/after Kickoff), to do list-only drafts as third drafts of the day, or to do "long" drafts for some or all drafts. I'm still looking for input.




One thing that I didn't put out would be a combination "list-only" and "long" draft, where list-only drafts would be open for a couple or three days prior to the deadline so people could get their lists in. But once the cutoff time for lists is met, the draft is running...
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Really, really dislike #4

Prefer options 1 or 2, in that order.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

I prefer 3 and 2, in that order.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Another vote for option 2 please
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Current score:
1) 2
2) 7
3) 4
4)


Right now I'm just tracking total counts--I'll get into priority orders later. Again, no actual decisions until at least late tonight.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

I'll vote for option 3 as well.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Option 2 has my vote.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

The poll is definitely trending one way, so let's go with that.

Reminder on the options:

1) Move the start date back a week, so the week before Thanksgiving.
2) Run three-a-days on select days, once or twice a week. One is a list-only draft: get your list in by draft start, or get a random team. [noted to possibly open early]
3) Run two "extra" drafts per week in "long format" (open X day, times enforced on Y day). [Noted that this would also cover running all drafts long-format]
4) Run drafts after Kickoff.

Scores from the initial poll:
1) 2
2) 8
3) 4
4) -1

So obviously, we'd like to wrap up before Kickoff. Now let's weight some things here...first option if someone picked two.

1) 1
2) 7
3) 4

Well, obviously we don't like moving start earlier. That flips the sole vote for 1 to a 2.

2) 8
3) 4


Looks like a once-or-twice-a-week 3-draft night, with draft #3 being list-only.

So... Here's what I'm thinking on that. #3 draft on those nights opens 2 nights early (normally I'd open a draft 1 night early but that's just how I roll). You can pick without a list once it's open. At "Draft Start Time", anybody that doesn't have a list in gets randoms for any remaining picks.

Just to pick on a draft... Let's say that Orange County draws a #3 for December 12. (NOT the actual draft date, folks--but it would be funny if that happened.) On December 10, it's posted at about normal drafting time. Between draft open and 7 PM on 12/12, pick as normal. BUT! After 7:00 PM, picks aren't accepted, the draft is finished with lists and randoms. Draft ends by 7:15 or so (cue trades from everybody who forgot to put in a list).


tl;dr: There will be "list-only" drafts as 3rd drafts on certain days, but they'll be open for a couple of days before cutoff and live picks will be able to be made during that time. (Think of it as putting guaranteed teams on your list.)


I should have a schedule out this weekend sometime. I figure on trying to get about one off-day (FULLY off, if possible) per week.

P.S. Lists are always appreciated by the draft runners, even if the draft isn't list-only.
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Re: [FF]: 2018 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

Honestly there probably isn't any issue combining the two together, 2-3 drafts a night, open a bunch early so that people can pick early. Like open the whole draft cycle at the same time. It's a decent compromise for both folks.
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Honestly there probably isn't any issue combining the two together, 2-3 drafts a night, open a bunch early so that people can pick early. Like open the whole draft cycle at the same time. It's a decent compromise for both folks.
Let's put it this way: I don't put any limits on how early any given draft opens for picking...

I'll probably restrict the waiver drafts a little bit, though.
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