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Re: Use Of Punctuation In A Post And What Is Annoying or Confusing

Half of GP is professionalism, and that should be expressed in your posts on the forum. This is something that I know I can improve on and I'm sure I'm not alone.

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Psst - Al - While we are on the subject of writing (or speaking) well, I would like to take a moment to remind our readers that a single, male graduate is an alumnus, not an alumni.

A female graduate is an alumna; and several of them together are almunae.
Maybe the selection for "Alumni" in the "Team Role" section of profiles on this website should be changed
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Maybe the selection for "Alumni" in the "Team Role" section of profiles on this website should be changed
After you take care of that, please pull a few million license plate frames (advertising expensive university/college educations) off of US cars and replace them with more appropriate ones.
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After you take care of that, please pull a few million license plate frames (advertising expensive university/college educations) off of US cars and replace them with more appropriate ones.
A slightly more expensive solution for my family was to graduate three of us from the same university...
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Maybe the selection for "Alumni" in the "Team Role" section of profiles on this website should be changed
Alumni would be the plural of alumnum, the neuter form. If I recall correctly this would be the form used for a mixed group. So most universities are OK. There are a few single sex schools around that should be more careful, especially if they have a Classics department.
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Alumni would be the plural of alumnum, the neuter form.
And I am pretty sure that the plural form of aluminum is "6-pack"

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Re: Use Of Punctuation In A Post And What Is Annoying or Confusing

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A slightly more expensive solution for my family was to graduate three of us from the same university...
But think of the savings on license plate frames!
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Hey Don - Try using "use" instead of "usage" - It's easier to type, means the same thing, and doesn't sound like jargon
You're correct, BUT I pick my words carefully.

My Websters 8th Collegiate defines Use as "the act or practice of employing something" for example "I use words carefully"
Same book calls Usage "Firmly established and generally accepted practice or procedure". For example "word usage"

For all practical purposes, these two words have the same meaning - but when you get to splitting hairs, in my context Usage was the better use.

Oh, how I love to split hairs...
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You're correct, BUT ...
For all practical purposes, these two words have the same meaning - but when you get to splitting hairs, in my context Usage was the better use.
...
Already ate some crow for this one; but a second helping of crow always helps the lesson stick. Maybe I'll cling to the "You are correct" part of your post.

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Alumni would be the plural of alumnum, the neuter form. If I recall correctly this would be the form used for a mixed group. So most universities are OK. There are a few single sex schools around that should be more careful, especially if they have a Classics department.
What seems completely wrong to me (except for Mark's family) is the use of a plural form.

If a person wants to use their car to advertise that they graduated from an institution, then they would want to announce that they are one graduate. Many people don't seem realize that there is no such thing as "an alumni".

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PS: Aluminum... LOL
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Re: Use Of Punctuation In A Post And What Is Annoying or Confusing

For me, the biggest 'turn-off' in using "they" as a gender-neutral term is that "they" is plural. Example (emphasis mine):

If a person wants to use their car to advertise that they graduated from an institution, then they would want to announce that they are one graduate.


The change from singular to plural, then back to singular, is troubling to me as a literalist. From my experience, engineers are nothing if not literal.
I'd prefer "one" or "his or her" to "they;" even though "his or her" is a bit more cumbersome, it is more proper (if only in my eyes).
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For me, the biggest 'turn-off' in using "they" as a gender-neutral term is that "they" is plural. Example (emphasis mine):

If a person wants to use their car to advertise that they graduated from an institution, then they would want to announce that they are one graduate.


The change from singular to plural, then back to singular, is troubling to me as a literalist. From my experience, engineers are nothing if not literal.
I'd prefer "one" or "his or her" to "they;" even though "his or her" is a bit more cumbersome, it is more proper (if only in my eyes).
Point taken - However, on this one I do have allies as far back the 1300s according to this source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/they

I am reminded of the apocryphal "... up with which I will not put!" tale described here: http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/001715.html

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Re: Use Of Punctuation In A Post And What Is Annoying or Confusing

This thread came in handy today!

A co-worker, in the cubicle across from me, announced randomly about midway through the morning, "I sure wish I could remember how to tell when to use affect or effect."

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I remember it with Affect is an action, effect is the end result.

Though effect can also be a verb. Just to confuse you.


(He was quite impressed!)
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