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The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

So I made this thread, four years ago and clicking through it many of the teams (Including my own choices) have won events since then.

So I figured I would start a new discussion but add some new rules as well as keep the old ones:
1. You must compete with the team fairly regularly
2. The team must have competed in 4 straight FRC seasons aka since 2013
3. Teams must already be signed up to compete in the 2017 season
4. They can not have won any official event
5. An official event is one that provides a FIRST Blue Banner (Regional, Distict, District Championship, Division, Subdivision, and Championship)
6. They can not be your team or teams.

While not a requirement I also would like everyone to list why they think they are good, and what has kept them from getting the coveted winner title.
Bad Luck? Mechanical Inconsistencies? Scouting Issues?

So from Florida I am going to say 3556 GET SMART and 3653 BOTCATS.

3556 was the easy one for me because they are the team that appears to be on their way to being the next big player in Florida FRC. In their 6 years and 8 regionals they have only missed elims once. And those 7 elims appearances include two finalist appearances in 2012 and 2016. 3556 to me is always just one slightly different decision, or one bit of luck going a different way from getting that blue banner and I have faith they are just about to finally have everything come together.

3653 has two finalists appearances (2012 and 2015) over there 6 years, same as 3556, but are not as consistent as GET SMART (Missing 5 elims out of 11 regionals). But after looking at teams who hadn't won I noticed that 3653 always improves in between their events and does better, hence a late bloomer. 3653 needs to find consistency earlier in the season to get their win, because with their proven ability to improve I know they are capable of producing a robot to win earlier.

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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

I'm so happy that my team no longer qualifies for this.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

I'm shocked 4536 hasn't won an official event yet. They have been one of the top teams at 10k for the last 3 years.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

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They can not be your team or teams.
This should be a rule for all of these types of threads.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

5254 Hype somehow hasn't won an event yet.
They've been to IRI twice in their three years of existence without winning an official event.
That shows you how impressive they actually are.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

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5254 Hype somehow hasn't won an event yet.
TECHNICALLY, 5254 is ineligible by James' criteria. They were a rookie in 2014, he lists 4 years of FRC experience ('since 2013') as a requirement.

And even then, Kevin likes to take out a year to gauge their performance.

Let's give them a few years
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

461 still hasn't won an event.
They've been an event finalist 6 times including one division finals appearance. They also have won 5 engineering inspiration awards and two chairmans in their 17 seasons. Hopefully their finals curse ends soon, preferably with 1747
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

First team that comes to mind for me is 4536 The Minutebots. They've been Finalists at the 10,000 lakes regional 3 years in a row (2014, 2015, 2016) and got the wildcard each time. They recently won their first unofficial event, but they've yet to win their first blue banner. 4536 has been unlucky due to the fact that the 10,000 lakes regional is dominated by the usual powerhouses (525, 2052, 2502), but I still find it impressive they make a name for themselves every year against the powerhouses facing them in the finals.

Other notable MN mentions: 2705, 2846, 2987. I'm probably overlooking a couple from MN.

Team 706 also comes to mind. They've been competing from 2001 - 2016, and they've been Finalists 6 times. It's been a HUGE mixture of unluckyness. The 1 loss that to stick out to me is when they lost against 3018 and 2052 at Lake Superior in 2014. 706 missed 2 or 3 shots and wasted a lot of time during the match in Finals 2 (they had also won Finals 1) and if they had made any one of those shots, they would have won their first blue banner.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

I know so many teams that have won once WAYYYY back in time (in or around 2002), but of the teams that haven't won any, I have to say 1111. They've been to the finals three times, won a Chairman's award, and won three EI awards, but haven't been able to quite get over that last hurdle.

I expect that to change in the near future.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

Consider 1885.

They have only missed Championship once since their rookie year in 2006.

They have earned 7 blue banners since 2012, but none of them happen to say "Winner".

Over 33 lifetime events, they have been eliminated 4 times in the finals, 4 times in the semifinals, and 10 times in the quarterfinals.

Nobody can beat these stats.
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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

I'm a big fan of 3250.

1671 is kind of an outlier here, as they've won (and earned) a world championship, but they have not won a regional.

3476 was an outlier for a while as well, before the OC regional this year they had two division wins at champs, but no official event wins.

I think both 3250 and 1671 will make it happy pretty soon.
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461 still hasn't won an event.
They've been an event finalist 6 times including one division finals appearance. They also have won 5 engineering inspiration awards and two chairmans in their 17 seasons. Hopefully their finals curse ends soon, preferably with 1747
I agree 461 has to be hands down the best team to have never won an event.
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3476 was an outlier for a while as well, before the OC regional this year they had two division wins at champs, but no official event wins.
Not completely correct, we won SDR is 2012.

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Re: The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event

I think it's shocking how 1741 hasn't won any regionals/districs... They have been regional finalists three times that I know of (BMR 2006, BMR 2013, Chesapeake 2014), they scarcely miss eliminations (if ever), and they have made division elims. three times (SF 2012, SF 2013, QF 2015).
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I agree 461 has to be hands down the best team to have never won an event.
+1 on this.

I'll add that Steve Florence is among the greatest of FIRST's unsung heroes. That he does not (yet) have a WFFA is even more incredible than the team's hard luck breaking through for a Winner's blue banner.
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