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Re: Curie 2010!

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The new system is really close to good, but it leads itself to being taken advantage of in some cases. If you suspect you can't beat another team you can turn around and score on yourself to improve your seeding score. This aspect is horrible from a spectator standpoint. When you have to sit and write a dissertation to explain to spectators why everyone if scoring on the opposite goals, then the game has lost its "spectator friendliness".

It also does not reward defensive playing. As it stands the way you play when you qualify is not the same as when you play in the eliminations. I think there are some tweaks that can be made to improve these two issues, but I admit I am at a loss to what those things could be exactly. Surely the community can brainstorm something to keep the good and ditch the 6v0 bad.
IRI should change the seeding system to be winners get winners score, losers get losers score. This will get rid of the 6 v 0 aspect, no one will be scoring in each others goals. It will also minimize defense as it would have no advantage to your seed (unless you were playing an alliance that had a team close to you in the ranks). The first tie breaker should be hanging points. This will encourage exciting end game hangs. Thoughts?
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Unread 04-21-2010, 02:41 PM
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Re: Curie 2010!

Leave the ranking system alone... It does it's job...
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Re: Curie 2010!

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IRI should change the seeding system to be winners get winners score, losers get losers score. This will get rid of the 6 v 0 aspect, no one will be scoring in each others goals. It will also minimize defense as it would have no advantage to your seed (unless you were playing an alliance that had a team close to you in the ranks). The first tie breaker should be hanging points. This will encourage exciting end game hangs. Thoughts?
It doesn't factor in how tough your opponents are... I assume this is the reason for the opponents score being part of the winners score.
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Re: Curie 2010!

I'm surprised to see that they never updated our score after our last match(144). They claimed we finished in 18th, but after adding our last match scores, we should have finished in 12th.

Overall, we are very happy at our accomplishments this year. We had a robot that performed well and did the best we have ever done in Atlanta. Many of us think we could have even done better as well. Look out Einstein, we will see you next year!
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Re: Curie 2010!

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I'm surprised to see that they never updated our score after our last match(144). They claimed we finished in 18th, but after adding our last match scores, we should have finished in 12th.
This is something you would need to loudly, calmly, and clearly tell the FTA on field as it is happening. If that's actually the case you deserved an alliance selection redo if the 12th seed became a captain...
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Re: Curie 2010!

Curie 2010 was the perfect way to finish 1732's best year in team history. I wish we could have gone further, but still had a blast.

Thanks for 1511 for picking us and 368 for joining our alliance. I think we were one of the better alliances that would have gone further if we weren't fodder for 1114/469/2041 first. On the bright side, we had the lowest point differential of any alliance that played them on Curie. The first quarterfinal match was probably my favorite match we have lost. We almost had them! Anyway, I hope we can partner up again in the future.

Congrats to 1114, 469 and 2041. Three of my favorite teams in FIRST. 1114 is amazing in everything they do and is just insanely inspiring. 469 has always built some of my favorite robots while 2041 is one of the scrappiest, smartest teams that does the most with the least (just check out their progression since 2007). I can't wait to see their blue banner hanging in their pit at Midwest next year.

Thanks again to 171 for scouting with us. Hopefully, we can do it again in the future.

Thanks again to 1739 for giving us a ride from the hotel and naming our blue polos that we wear on Saturday the "beat 'em up blues". I hope the name sticks with the rest of my team.

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Re: Curie 2010!

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Re: Curie 2010!

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Jeff, If you are a first-year driver, then your opponents next year are in for some serious trouble. You guys were awesome. If we ever meet up again, I hope we are wearing the same color again.
Thanks, Jeff! I loved working with you guys. Even before our qualifying match started I knew we would work very well together. I look forward to seeing 1986 again next year and, as you said, I hope we'll be together (Otherwise I'm going to have trouble in that match)
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Re: Curie 2010!

I just wanted to publicly apolgize for my comments in this thread regarding match 100 and the GDC's ranking system, I realize they may have come off in a way that was much more harsh and critical then I had originally intended. I was simply expressing my frustration with the way the ranking system worked in some situations this season.
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Re: Curie 2010!

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The first quarterfinal match was probably my favorite match we have lost. We almost had them!
Indeed, we definitely did our best as the underdogs to get through the powerhouse first seeded alliance. Many mahalos go out to our partners 1511 and 1732! That match in particular can be viewed here if anyone is interested.

Now that Atlanta and Dallas (VEX) are over, we're going to try to upload what video we have from Curie. We've got just about all the matches taped from Thursday and Friday and then only our matches on Saturday. It's going to take awhile to upload, but they should be viewable up to 1080p once they're done. YouTube is being finicky about converting some of the videos, so we'll work on it.

Great job, Curie! It was definitely a blast...
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