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View Poll Results: What is a sammich?
Hardline Traditionaist 11 4.30%
Structural Purist, Ingredient Neutral 10 3.91%
Structural Purist, Ingredient Rebel 38 14.84%
Structural Neutral, Ingredient Purist 67 26.17%
True Neutral 25 9.77%
Structural Neutral, Ingredient Rebel 28 10.94%
Structural Rebel, Ingredient Purist 6 2.34%
Structural Rebel, Ingredient Neutral 12 4.69%
Radical Sandwich Anarchy 59 23.05%
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Re: Is it a sammich?

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That would be considered not a sandwich because the outermost layer is crunchy.
Actually, the outer most layer is soft, followed by cheese, and THEN crunchy on the inside, along with other ingredients.

What about Subway's Frito subs? It's basically the same thing...
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Re: Is it a sammich?

Gus, I like your summary. However, I cannot go along with structure point 5.

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The outer layer may be applied to the inner layer by dipping or stuffing a structure which covers five or six sides.
I do not think you can restrict the most radical type of structure to hexahedrons. Perhaps instead of "five or six sides.", it should be "n-1 or n sides."

BTW, there may be some exceptions but I think I would be a 3,3,3.

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Gus, I like your summary. However, I cannot go along with structure point 5.
I do not think you can restrict the most radical type of structure to hexahedrons. Perhaps instead of "five or six sides.", it should be "n-1 or n sides."
I believe you're talking about faces, not sides.

Also, I noticed another axis which appears at least somewhat independent of the others - the consistency of the outside.
  1. The outer substance may not be crunchy.
  2. The outer substance may be crunchy.
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Re: Is it a sammich?

For sandwiches, I believe the layering of the fill material matters.

Majority parallel layering = sandwich.
Majority perpendicular layering or non layering altogether = something else (burrito, wrap).

A taco would not be a sandwich based on orientation of the fill material, because it is perpendicular to the shell.
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Re: Is it a sammich?

I can't believe i associate with a bunch of sammich anarchists
A sandwich is "An item of food consisting of two pieces of bread with a filling between them, eaten as a light meal"(1). Therefore structural purity and ingredient neutrality must be maintained. Waffles do not count as bread and a sliced roll does not classify as two pieces of bread, Shame......

1. “Sandwich | Definition of Sandwich in English by Oxford Dictionaries.” Oxford Dictionaries | English, Oxford Dictionaries, en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sandwich.
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Re: Is it a sammich?

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That would be considered not a sandwich because the outermost layer is crunchy.
So what you're telling me right now is that I can't toast bread for my sandwiches, if I happen to leave the bread toasting for too long.
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Re: Is it a sammich?

Does this mean that you count a quesadilla as a sandwich? the ingredients are layered parallel by my account.
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Does this mean that you count a quesadilla as a sandwich? the ingredients are layered parallel by my account.
200%. I would consider a generic wrap to be a sandwich, and the translation from wrap to quesadilla, taco or otherwise u-shaped food is simply folding the outer layer in a different fashion.
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Does this mean that you count a quesadilla as a sandwich? the ingredients are layered parallel by my account.
I think it's more reasonable to describe a quesadilla as a sandwich than to describe a taco as a sandwich.

If I was emperor of the world and I wanted to give a strict definition of a sandwich, I'd probably require the use of leavened bread as well, which would exclude crackers and tortillas.
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For sandwiches, I believe the layering of the fill material matters.

Majority parallel layering = sandwich.
Majority perpendicular layering or non layering altogether = something else (burrito, wrap).

A taco would not be a sandwich based on orientation of the fill material, because it is perpendicular to the shell.
This leaves out the Philly. While the cheese may be a "layer", the steak, onions, and peppers are usually churned together. It similarly leaves out plain chicken/tuna/ham salad sandwiches.

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To get a general idea of what people think more generally, I went to Google Images and entered the search string "sandwich" and looked at the first screenful (20) images:

Untoasted (or indeterminate) sliced bread: 5
Toasted sliced bread: 6
Split buns: 8, including a biscuit and a croissant
Panini: 1
Wrap/taco: 0

Outer content: all leavened bread; the croissant was the farthest from pedantic. Plenty were crispy (toasted), none crunchy.

Inner content: None with only meat. The panini had only meat and cheese. Of the others, all had vegetables, three had no meat (vegetarian), and another four might not have had meat. All savory, all layered in parallel with the bread.
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Burgers can only be on white bread. Not a sammy. But it can venture into a sammy IF it is on wheat bread (completely Un-American) AND you add tomatoes, onions, lettuce, etc. If there is more ketchup than mustard, that negates the deal altogether.
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So what you're telling me right now is that I can't toast bread for my sandwiches, if I happen to leave the bread toasting for too long.
Toasted bread is acceptable under my rules, cracker-like things such as taco shells are not, as they were not like bread to begin with.
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which would exclude crackers.
Someone will have to break this to the kids.
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Re: Is it a sammich?

But is cereal a soup or a salad?
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But is cereal a soup or a salad?
It depends on the type of milk used:

Soup: skim milk or 1%
Salad: 2% or whole milk

The consistency of the milk determines if it is a broth or a dressing.
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