Car Nack Predicts 12-1

[Car Nack]

Car Nack Predicts 12-1

During the FRC season you will never see 36 points scored in the hybrid period.

Car Nack has spoken

[Sean Raia]

Originally Posted by Car Nack

Car Nack Predicts 12-1

During the FRC season you will never see 36 points scored in the hybrid period.

Car Nack has spoken

I completely agree.

[jblay]

O great car nack, thank you for blessing us with your wisdom for another difficult to predict competition.

And yes I agree with you.

[LinuxArchitect]

Originally Posted by Car Nack

Car Nack Predicts 12-1

During the FRC season you will never see 36 points scored in the hybrid period.

Car Nack has spoken

I predict more than 36(*) in the elimination rounds at DC. That is week 5, 3 weeks after many of the teams will have been together at the Baltimore event.

*: don't forget the balls on the bridges; one robot moves directly there while partners shoot, then shoots two while collecting two or more to shoot again. I'd have(**) a wide robot with two side by side shooter mechanisms.

**: not that I think my team will do it; they ignore my ideas a lot

[I LOVE ROBOTS!]

Originally Posted by Car Nack

Car Nack Predicts 12-1

During the FRC season you will never see 36 points scored in the hybrid period.

Car Nack has spoken

I think you'll a hybrid score over 36 the very first week... unless you exclude penalites

[Hawiian Cadder]

I bet there is a team that manages to score the balls they start with, and then go to the middle bridge and claim more. I don't think we will ever see 3 robots score 36 points with even distribution, but i can see a high rate shooter scoring many more points just by themselves.

[pandamonium]

I also think that Car Nack is wrong.
In theory...
One robot can shoot two... Go to ramp... lower ramp... colect 2 - 6 shoot 2 - 6... then strafe to aliance ramp... colect 2 shoot 2...

Pandamonium predicts in eliminations strong auto modes are more important than 3 on ramp.

[Nathan Streeter]

Assuming Car Nack meant that a single alliance will never score more than 36 points in auto, I would say he's likely going to be wrong, but very rarely!

Given that we could have some robots feeding into a great scorer, a robot getting the balls from one or both of their available ramps, etc. I think this'll happen on a few occasions throughout the competition season... it'll be attempted many, many more times!

[Swampdude]

I'm seeing a lot of bots that collect on the opposite side of their shooter. With a second bot that tips the bridge from the side, these balls roll straight into a center key shooter rear collector if they keep it running in autonomous (please do this if you're competing in Florida!). I think 36 is very possible.

[JABot67]

Technically, Car Nack wins. Our alliance at Kettering (862, 3322, 3601) scored 6 balls in the top hoop in autonomous, but the last score was counted in teleop. I will post video as soon as I can find some... we had a Rube Goldberg autonomous setup.

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by JABot67

we had a Rube Goldberg autonomous setup.

I hope someone caught it on camera! Sounds pretty interesting.

[johnmaguire2013]

Originally Posted by JABot67

Technically, Car Nack wins. Our alliance at Kettering (862, 3322, 3601) scored 6 balls in the top hoop in autonomous, but the last score was counted in teleop. I will post video as soon as I can find some... we had a Rube Goldberg autonomous setup.

Came here to say this. It was seriously awesome.

This was done with Team 3322 (a consistent, very very strong shooter), Team 862 (a shooter) and team 3601 (a feeder bot with an open top) by lining the three up very close to each other, with 3322 being at the key.

KEY
3322
3601 862

They were all touching each other. When autonomous begins our robot shoots its two balls (which it has never missed as far as I'm aware,) then 3601 passes its two balls to us through the feeder by reversing the feeder motor (something I believe was already a part of their design, they simply modified their autonomous to do it.) As its doings this, 862 shoots at a very low RPM their balls into 3601's open-topped ball holder. The motors still turning, it sends the balls to us as we have already shot the first two 3601 gave us. We then shoot the two 3601 passed to us.

I don't believe we ever got less than four, except for during one field error which we re-played and I believe that was the match in which we got all six (technically.) Our average was about five. The reason we didn't get six every time was simply due to the variables: the way the balls that 862 shot to 3601 bounced before getting sucked down into the feeder, a ball which just barely bounced off the rim (almost unheard of for our autonomous until we tried shooting so many balls.)

It was really great.

[JABot67]

Here's proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3oNVwsSWns

Doesn't really show how it works though...

[IKE]

The 3322-3601-862 maneuver was honestly one of the coolest things I have ever seen in FRC. I am seriously impressed you guys put that together, had it soo successful, had it so repeatable, in Week1! That deserved a creativity award in my book. It was one of those moves that people talk about, but it was truly amazing you guys did it.

[Joe J.]

This was team work at its finest, that strategy was all student thought up and implemented.

It was amazing watching all three teams work this out on the practice field, deploying the final code in queuing right before our match and to have it work so consistently.