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Car Nack Predicts 12-3

Car Nack predicts 12-3

During the FRC season there will never be a match where all six robots will be balanced on a bridge.

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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

I believe that the great Car Nack will be proven wrong, possibly during week 1.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

I think there will be. Especially in qualification matches. Two on each bridge wont be terribly difficult.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

I think you can book that one.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

Car Nack was proven wrong last year in saying there would never be six logos. I say that he is wrong on this prediction. Wise Car Nack, give us more wise predictions.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

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I think you can book that one.
Are you assuming his use of "a" bridge implies the singular?

Because it seems quite plausible that at somewhere like MSC with lots of good robots you could get 2-2-2 during quals.
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Are you assuming his use of "a" bridge implies the singular?

Because it seems quite plausible that at somewhere like MSC with lots of good robots you could get 2-2-2 during quals.
"A bridge" = "Any bridge". At least that's how I interpret it.
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Because it seems quite plausible that at somewhere like MSC with lots of good robots you could get 2-2-2 during quals.
Yep.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

I would also have to disagree with this statement assuming the wise Car Nack means any combination on all three bridges.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

The prediction would be more likely if it refers to three robots on each alliance's bridge.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

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Are you assuming his use of "a" bridge implies the singular?

Because it seems quite plausible that at somewhere like MSC with lots of good robots you could get 2-2-2 during quals.
First off I wouldn't consider the MSC part of the regular season. Chances are having 6 robots able to climb ramps to start with and then be able to coordinate to achieve such a feet are almost nill.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

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First off I wouldn't consider the MSC part of the regular season. Chances are having 6 robots able to climb ramps to start with and then be able to coordinate to achieve such a feet are almost nill.
Wouldn't a lot of robots that are able to drive be able to climb a ramp? As a lot of videos have shown, one robot doesn't even need a bridge manipulator to climb a ramp as long as the other robot trying to climb with it does. So I would say the chances of six robots (especially at some of the stronger regionals/district events) being able to climb the ramp is pretty high. Now whether or not they try to is a different question.

I disagree with Car Nack on this one. I think it'll happen a few times.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

I too disagree. Most of the successful robots will be able to traverse the bridge, and in the end of the match there will be nothing better to do, unless it is a really close game where getting coopertition points is not worth being unable to score. It'll probably happen a few times at most of the regionals; I'll be watching Long Beach.
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Re: Car Nack Predicts 12-3

MSC? Help me out here. Is this like an IRI only west of the Rockies?

I don't know about Car Nack's prediction but I can tell you that perhaps his thinking not that it is not possible but that the motivation may not be what many people think. For example if Alliance 1 and Alliance 4 both won in round 1 of the elims, by balancing 3 each against opponents that did not balance 3. Then each alliance knows when they meet in that the other can get 40 points -- but it in this case, neither team will choose to do so because they know that if they do, the other team will do... ...so why not keep scoring in the baskets instead?

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MSC? Help me out here. Is this like an IRI only west of the Rockies?

I don't know about Car Nack's prediction but I can tell you that perhaps his thinking not that it is not possible but that the motivation may not be what many people think. For example if Alliance 1 and Alliance 4 both won in round 1 of the elims, by balancing 3 each against opponents that did not balance 3. Then each alliance knows when they meet in that the other can get 40 points -- but it in this case, neither team will choose to do so because they know that if they do, the other team will do... ...so why not keep scoring in the baskets instead?

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