Car Nack Predicts 12-3

[Joe G.]

MSC = Michigan State Championship, which has featured quite a high level of play these past few years.

As for Car Nack's prediction, I will be surprised to see 6 robots on 2 bridges. However, I'd wager that 6 on 3 will occur in qualifications at at least 1/4th of regionals, and fairly regularly at the Michigan State Championship, MAR championship, St. Louis, etc.

[Joe Johnson]

Man! I guy moves to New England and he forgets his roots.

How could I have forgotten Michigan State Championships?

I'm an idiot.

Thanks,
Joe J.

[pfreivald]

The best part about Car Nack is trying really, really hard to prove him wrong.

[JesseK]

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson

I don't know about Car Nack's prediction but I can tell you that perhaps his thinking not that it is not possible but that the motivation may not be what many people think. For example if Alliance 1 and Alliance 4 both won in round 1 of the elims, by balancing 3 each against opponents that did not balance 3. Then each alliance knows when they meet in that the other can get 40 points -- but it in this case, neither team will choose to do so because they know that if they do, the other team will do... ...so why not keep scoring in the baskets instead?

Joe J.

Because it takes time to setup and balance 3 robots. If you plan to do a 2-balance and keep the remaining robot scoring, it better be a superstar basket scorer with plenty of available balls. Can any single robot make up 20 points in hoops in the time it takes 3 robots to coordinate a balance? I doubt it.

It's like hanging in 2010: sure in some matches you can score the 2 extra points with soccer balls, but in most matches you won't even have 2 balls available to score in the final seconds.

[DampRobot]

Originally Posted by Cory

Are you assuming his use of "a" bridge implies the singular?

I wonder if it would be even physically possible to put 6 FRC robots on one bridge. Even piled one on top of another, I think 6 robots would just be too unstable...

On a slightly less hypothetical note, I don't think we can rule out all six robots balanced on 6 bridges ever. There are a lot of matches in an FRC season, and bridge balancing is not all that uncommon, even in weeks one and two. Even last year where (in my opinion) the endgame was much more challenging, four mini-bots did happen a couple of times per regional in eliminations. FRC is too big a place for 6 robots not to happen at least once, in my opinion.

[CalTran]

Waterford Finals Match 1 just managed TWO triple balances

[slijin]

Originally Posted by CalTran

Waterford Finals Match 1 just managed TWO triple balances

Seen here!

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by slijin

Seen here!

Thank you; I was watching over the webcast and I'm STILL in awe over all of the Elimination matches I've seen today. Week two has absolutely stunned me with all of the "records" that have been broken. Teams have broken the 100 point barrier, triple balanced on a regular basis, pulled off a double triple balance, and I'm sure there's plenty more to come. I really can't wait to see MSC, and even more excited to see IRI this year

[jyh947]

A double triple balance in F1-1 at Waterford Districts!
Congrats to teams 67, 2851, 469, 3601, 3098, 573!

[Patrick Seeney]

Thanks to 67, 2851, 573, 3098, and 3601 for a great finals and pulling off the first double triple of the season!

[JosephC]

The crowd went wild when it happened, I'm sooooo glad I was there to see it.

Car Nack appears to be 0-2 is he slipping up?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Patrick Seeney

Thanks to 67, 2851, 573, 3098, and 3601 for a great finals and pulling off the first double triple of the season!

I believe the basketball term is a triple-double...

I also think that Car Nack needs a new crystal ball.

[the man]

I think there will be. Especially in qualification matches. Two on each bridge wont be terribly difficult.

[bduddy]

I'd be disappointed if there was a regional where it never happened. I do think it'll be harder than a lot of people think, but considering the rewards for being able to balance, teams will be crazy to design a robot that can't balance with at least one other.

[KrazyCarl92]

Well remember, in qualifications, this would be balancing 2 robots on each of the three bridges. But in quals, how often will there be 6 robots playing together that are capable of balancing with another robot?

Then in eliminations, you need to have two alliances that can balance 3 robots on their alliance bridge since there is no reward for the coopertition bridge. Having never seen any of the robots attempt a triple balance in quals because that would be useless, the farthest you can go in selecting for a triple balance alliance is finding robots that can consistently balance with 2 in quals and will all fit on the bridge together. Now have two alliances that have selected for that face each other in eliminations and pull off a triple balance in the same match...with next to no practice together doing it.

Steep odds either way, but I could see it happening at qualifications at Championship, MSC and IRI, otherwise the odds are far too slim.