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Re: What did it take to win a Week 1 Rebound Rumble match?

What are your thoughts on balancing the different bridges during qualification matches? Should one focus on balancing your own bridge or the coopertition bridge?
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Re: What did it take to win a Week 1 Rebound Rumble match?

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What are your thoughts on balancing the different bridges during qualification matches? Should one focus on balancing your own bridge or the coopertition bridge?
To piggyback on this question, what do you think the affect of the coopertition bridge was on the average score?
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To piggyback on this question, what do you think the affect of the coopertition bridge was on the average score?
In qualification matches, balancing with just 1 robot commonly meant winning the match. In elimination rounds, teams needed to get both a 10-20 point autonomous plus balance 2 to stay competitive.
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Re: What did it take to win a Week 1 Rebound Rumble match?

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What are your thoughts on balancing the different bridges during qualification matches? Should one focus on balancing your own bridge or the coopertition bridge?
For our team, we usually had the most consistent balancer to go on our own bridge, and the second-best attempt the co-op bridge. Then we attempted to convince the opposing alliance to join us on the coopertition with their strongest balancer.
As teams started to realize that gaining coopertition points meant significant rises in the standings, the attempts became more and more common. By the last day, almost all matches were at least trying the co-op balance.

Also, the rule of thumb for our matches was to "be at the bridge with 45 seconds remaining". If the robots on each side weren't ready to go at the 45 second mark, each team went off to do their own thing.
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Re: What did it take to win a Week 1 Rebound Rumble match?

This is anecdotal, but I saw several matches where a team failed at a 20-point bridge balance when a 10-point balance would have won them the game.
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This is anecdotal, but I saw several matches where a team failed at a 20-point bridge balance when a 10-point balance would have won them the game.
And I saw one particular high caliber match where a team failed at a 40 point balance where they would have won with 20.
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Re: What did it take to win a Week 1 Rebound Rumble match?

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What are your thoughts on balancing the different bridges during qualification matches? Should one focus on balancing your own bridge or the coopertition bridge?
Teams tend to have an optimistic view of their own capabilities. We had coopertition agreements in most matches. However, we were alone at/on the coopertition bridge as often as not. At least with the alliance bridge you get points for balancing alone. If you don't need the points to win the match, coopertition makes more sense than alliance (to the team with the lead, at least).
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Re: What did it take to win a Week 1 Rebound Rumble match?

From watching webcasts this past weekend, it appeared that widebots either didnt attempt to push another robot up the ramp, or failed to do so.
In our scrimmage right before build season ended, I saw that to be the case.
I also noticed that teams with mechanum and omnis had a hard time getting on the ramp and balancing at a high success rate also.

Our team with our 8 wheel drivetrain has already attempted to push another robot up onto a ramp unassisted by the other team.
Honestly, I want to be the team that does this and not have to count on someone else doing it for us to balance 2 robots, especially during qualification matches where you're randomly with any team.
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Re: What did it take to win a Week 1 Rebound Rumble match?

i feel the best way to win was getting out onto the field as many times as possible during practice as the more practice you get the better you get, we got out a dozen times during practice and it helped us alot expecially balancing on the bridge and learning how we want to play the game.
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Re: What did it take to win a Week 1 Rebound Rumble match?

Another "Heads-up" to teams going in to competitions in the coming weeks regarding teams trying to get 2 or 3 robots onto a bridge when 1 fewer would decide a match...

We witnessed the other end of that situation in a critical elim match where a single robot balanced a bridge with some time to spare instead of going over to allow an alliance partner to join them. The match was decided by fewer than 10 points, meaning that additional robot would have been decisive.

Part of the problem...and the "Heads Up"...at the GKC regional, only the Blue Alliance Drive Teams were facing the projected score board and it took more of a concerted effort on the part of the Red Alliance to continue monitoring the scoreboard during the final seconds of the match. We had coaches monitoring the board but in the heat of battle, they weren't successful in conveying the message to the involved drivers that the additional robot was the only way of winning the match.
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