[FRCTop25.com] Week 1 Results Broadcast LIVE tonight!

[Justin Montois]

First off, a huge thank you to everyone who voted this week. Voter turnout was awesome and we can't stress enough how happy Mike and I are with the amount of submissions we got this week. (Even if it means a heck of a lot more work for us!)

Tonight at 10:30PM EST we will be hosting another LIVE episode of Mike and Justin in the Morning where Mike and I will release the Week 1 Rankings of the Top 25 teams in FRC. Last week we topped out at 122 viewers, can we break that record this week?

As always, if you have anything you would like to discuss, shoot an email to mikeandjustinitm@gmail.com and we'd be happy to bring it up. Also, if you want to give us some insight on something you saw this past weekend that you think is noteworthy please let us know, as much as we would love too, Mike and I can't watch every match or be at every event.

Also, we have two viewer videos to show that are AWESOME! If you would like to create your own segment please email us and we would be happy to talk to you about it. It could be anything from previewing a particular regional or making your own predictions or anything!

We can't for the show tonight and we hope you can join us!

[Joohoo]

Can't wait to see the show!

[tsakshaug]

have to see the "tape" still at work at that time, unless it is really slow

[Justin Montois]

Thanks for everyone that tuned in! We had a great time! We hope you guys did too!

[Drivencrazy]

It was a good cast. Still surprised to see 341 down in third but oh well. BTW did you get any pizza?

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Drivencrazy

It was a good cast. Still surprised to see 341 down in third but oh well. BTW did you get any pizza?

Clearly people voted without actually watching all the events, because 341 was hands down the best team competing in week 1.

[Koko Ed]

How is 118 and 148 ahead of 1477 who won the event ? What an insult.

[ttldomination]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

How is 118 and 148 ahead of 1477 who won the event ? What an insult.

I don't know all of the stats, but I will say that 118 tops 1477 in my books.

As two machines going head to head, 118 definitely showed to be the more dominant robot, with 1477 playing a close second. 118's alliance was simply eliminated from the event because their elimination alliance failed to balance a bridge in their last match vs. a three robot balance, which is a devastating deficit to overcome with pure hoop offense.

The three robot balance might also be a reason why people prefer 148 over 1477 as well. Not saying that 148 was solely responsible, but their little stinger has received a lot of attention.

Nothing away from 1477, they have an excellent robot and deserved every ounce of the Alamo win, but I think these rankings really depend on what different people saw and what different people value.

- Sunny G.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by ttldomination

I don't know all of the stats, but I will say that 118 tops 1477 in my books.

As two machines going head to head, 118 definitely showed to be the more dominant robot, with 1477 playing a close second. 118's alliance was simply eliminated from the event because their elimination alliance failed to balance a bridge in their last match vs. a three robot balance, which is a devastating deficit to overcome with pure hoop offense.

The three robot balance might also be a reason why people prefer 148 over 1477 as well. Not saying that 148 was solely responsible, but their little stinger has received a lot of attention.

Nothing away from 1477, they have an excellent robot and deserved every ounce of the Alamo win, but I think these rankings really depend on what different people saw and what different people value.

- Sunny G.

That's like saying the Green Bay Packers should be rated over the New York Giants who won the Superbowl because the Packers offense is more spectacular.
118 and 148 are more known in the FIRST community (you don't see very many threads even mentioning 1477 while there are threads dedicated solely to 118 and 148's robots. So matter what they did they wouldn't get the respect they deserve).
Results are what count not style points.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

That's like saying the Green Bay Packers should be rated over the New York Giants who won the Superbowl because the Packers offense is more spectacular.
Results are what count not style points.

No it isn't.

You are no better than your alliance when it comes to win loss. That doesn't mean that the winner necessarily had the best robot. It means they had the best alliance.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Cory

No it isn't.

You are no better than your alliance when it comes to win loss. That doesn't mean that the winner necessarily had the best robot. It means they had the best alliance.

So what's the point of doing this dog and pony show if people are just going to vote for the teams they heard of and blow off teams that don't get as much exposure? Just put the usual suspects up and ignore the rest then.

[c.shu]

Looking at the top 10 it seems to be a popularity contest. But I am glad to see a few new teams make the list too.

[Chris Hibner]

For those that believe in OPR, below is the top-50 OPR from week 1 (thanks bongle). This OPR includes OPR points awarded for the coopertition bridge during quals.

1	OPR	341	35.3801
2	OPR	1986	30.4368
3	OPR	118	27.4233
4	OPR	16	24.7187
5	OPR	3528	23.7081
6	OPR	1218	23.1749
7	OPR	716	23.0361
8	OPR	1477	22.8183
9	OPR	1208	22.0868
10	OPR	148	21.4331
11	OPR	488	21.0588
12	OPR	3322	20.4773
13	OPR	967	19.7735
14	OPR	935	18.6588
15	OPR	58	18.6124
16	OPR	1730	18.5956
17	OPR	486	17.6905
18	OPR	131	17.6758
19	OPR	1918	17.2691
20	OPR	2468	17.2359
21	OPR	1982	16.7821
22	OPR	231	16.4926
23	OPR	51	16.4507
24	OPR	3476	16.1193
25	OPR	885	15.9677
26	OPR	525	15.3935
27	OPR	2496	15.3004
28	OPR	1997	15.2512
29	OPR	319	15.1421
30	OPR	772	15.13
31	OPR	85	15.067
32	OPR	2386	14.9676
33	OPR	1987	14.7172
34	OPR	234	14.6423
35	OPR	3467	14.6028
36	OPR	1538	14.5944
37	OPR	2485	14.4801
38	OPR	2751	14.301
39	OPR	2848	14.1875
40	OPR	126	14.0645
41	OPR	1108	13.8912
42	OPR	2337	13.5748
43	OPR	1985	13.5436
44	OPR	2345	13.3764
45	OPR	33	13.2874
46	OPR	95	13.2699
47	OPR	3597	13.2631
48	OPR	1138	13.1683
49	OPR	3284	12.8843
50	OPR	1726	12.7834

While popularity certainly plays a role in some of the picks, these numbers show that some of the discussed controversial picks may not be so controversial. 118 and 1477 both look like they put up a lot of offense. The numbers show 118 put up a little more. 1477 stepped up their game when the chips were down. Who'll be better come St. Louis? It's too early to tell, but odds are that they'll both be in the hunt.

[BJC]

Originally Posted by Squeakypig

Despite 2337 winning the Kettering district (which their alliance deserved to win) I feel like team 3322 should have ranked higher than them. Also, I believe 85 B.O.B. had a more impressive competition at Gull Lake than 51 did at Kettering. I think we will see better rankings around week 4. Until then, it really is gonna be about who the top names are, who posts the most videos on chief, etc.

Edit: Just saw 33 at the number 6 spot. For a team that didn't get their shooter working correctly until day 2 of competition...I don't think we saw them compete enough to put them that high...at all...I think they have the potential to do very good, but we haven't seen it in it's effect yet.

I actually thought that 2337 was awesome, they scored A LOT of points in Elims. They deserved their spot. 3322 was also awesome, but are less well known, thus is the nature of the beast.

As to 33(us) popularity certainly had a lot to do with it. We were 49 in OPR using only Quals. However, if you added in Elims (when we actually mostly worked) we came up around 4th in OPR. No matter where we were placed, understand that we while we're glad that people think we are the #6 best team right now, WE don't think we were good enough and rest assured that we will be much much better come Troy in Week 5.

Just remember, it's all in fun. Additionally, the more informed voters their are, the less it is a popularity contest.
Regards, Bryan

Edit: Also, Awesome job on the show guys! Your hard work is really apprechiated!

[jwfoss]

Originally Posted by c.shu

Looking at the top 10 it seems to be a popularity contest. But I am glad to see a few new teams make the list too.

Yes, it is at least partially a popularity contest, it's a public poll. Not everyone was able to watch every event nor do they study all of the statistics. To expect anything more of this, or to get angry about the results is pointless.