Best Robots Not At Championship, 2012 Edition

[IndySam]

It's an absolute crime that 2481 isn't in. They are by far the best team not in. Anyone who saw them play this year will tell you the same.

17-4 in qualls, #1 seed in Wisconsin and #3 at Queen City and a top 10 OPR and CCWM.

[AGPapa]

357 made it to the finals in the Hatboro-Horsham District and won the DC Regional. They also are qualified to go through MAR points. But they decided not to go for whatever reason.

[O'Sancheski]

I see that 2337 is not on the Championship roster.

EDIT: Realized that Bill said that MAR and Michigan teams might not be registered yet.

[Chris]

It's impossible to mention 2168 too many times in this thread.

Their robot was deadly accurate at the Suffield Shakedown Scrimmage (when most teams are just trying to move, or not flip over), and it only got better from there.

They were one of those teams that was hungry, motivated, classy, fun to work with, and great all around robot. This season for whatever reason they just couldn't catch a break.

I fully expect to see them make the final match of every off season they attend.

Maybe they'll decide to go to IRI so that they can turn some heads in the Midwest.

I wish them the best of luck in the coming years.

[MagiChau]

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski

I see that 2337 is not on the Championship roster.

EDIT: Realized that Bill said that MAR and Michigan teams might not be registered yet.

2337 qualified for Championship. 469, 67, 548, 2054, 1918, 1023, 3098, 2337, 573, 3322, 2474, 245, 830, 4294, 33, 503, 1718, and 4130 are the teams qualifying for Championship through Michigan's 18 spots. 67 is auto-bid as Hall of Fame. 469 and 830 would've qualified by points even without winning the event. 33 and 503 won Chairman's. 1718 won Engineering Inspiration and 4130 won Rookie All Star.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by MagiChau

67 is auto-bid as Hall of Fame.

So is 51, right?

If 51's HoF qualification removes them from Michigan's 18 slot allocations, then shouldn't 67's HoF qualification work the same way?

Then one more MSC team would need to be added, to complete the 18 slots. 217 is next in line.

Someone please correct me if I have misunderstood any of the above.

[David Smellie]

Originally Posted by Richard

So is 51, right?

If 51's HoF qualification removes them from Michigan's 18 slot allocations, then shouldn't 67's HoF qualification work the same way?

Then one more MSC team would need to be added, to complete the 18 slots. 217 is next in line.

Someone please correct me if I have misunderstood any of the above.

The way the systemfor Michigan works as I've been made to understand it is that only the 10 spots that are determined by points are redistributable. As such, 67's spot will open up on the waitlist, not for 217. Likewise, 27 qualified through the Chairman's Award and had already qualified for the championship event through winning the Engineering Inspiration at the Chesapeake Bay Regional but their spot is also not available for distribution and will go to the waitlist. Likewise, if one of the Chairman's teams, the RAS winner, or the Engineering Inspiration winner are unable to attend (though my understanding is they are all able to), the spot would open on the waitlist not for 217.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by David Smellie

The way the systemfor Michigan works as I've been made to understand it is that only the 10 spots that are determined by points are redistributable. As such, 67's spot will open up on the waitlist, not for 217. Likewise, 27 qualified through the Chairman's Award and had already qualified for the championship event through winning the Engineering Inspiration at the Chesapeake Bay Regional but their spot is also not available for distribution and will go to the waitlist. Likewise, if one of the Chairman's teams, the RAS winner, or the Engineering Inspiration winner are unable to attend (though my understanding is they are all able to), the spot would open on the waitlist not for 217.

Well, according to the FiM 2012 Supplement Rules,

The remaining 10 qualifying spots will be filled by starting at the top of the re-computed rankings and moving down as far as is necessary to fill the ten spots, skipping over teams that are already eligible or scheduled to attend.

*Note: To the extent any of the three teams on the winning alliance are already registered or qualify for a spot another way, the next available team in ranked order will be substituted in their place.

[David Smellie]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Well, according to the FiM 2012 Supplement Rules,

It appears after looking at the results again that 67's spot was correctly redistributed as there are 12 teams that qualified based off of points. These teams are 548, 2054, 1918, 1023, 3098, 2337, 573, 3322, 2474, 245, and 4294, and 51(also through HoF so not counted).

Also to Chris, it likewise appears that team 51's performance does not remove a spot so you do not have to feel anything wrong with that. It appears the only spots that cannot be redistributed are the Chairman's, Engineering Inspirations, and Rookie All-Star spots *if* the team did not qualify based on points. Also, I'd like to thank 51 for picking us both at MSC and at the Detroit regional.

[Ed Law]

First of all I want to say that at MSC, 11 teams qualified based on points instead of 10 teams as the Michigan supplement rules stated. That is because Team 67's spot was redistributed as the State Championship winner and they already registered to attend as an HoF team.
Secondly when there are more district events set up, the strong teams will be promoted to compete with their robot and not missed the opportunity that they deserved because they were not on the winning alliance. Other teams who won other awards should be allowed to attend as a team as well without their robot. That is how we do it in Michigan for teams who won Engineering Inspiration and RAS but did not qualify with their robot. That way they can experience the Championship just like another other team. They should be given an area similar to the size of a 10X10 pit to set up their display to talk to visitors and explain to them about FIRST and what they do.

[Lil' Lavery]

Another post for 357. If anyone was going to break the "no mecanums on Einstein" streak, it would have been Royal Assault. Their ranking and quarterfinal finish at the MAR Championship does not do they justice, they were incredible this season.

174 were really impressive on Saturday at DC, the only time I saw them this year. They were hanging shot-for-shot with 1218 and 836 in the semi-finals (aside of the notorious match 2, where the entire #5 alliance was incapacitated in some way).
e; See that someone beat me to them by a minute. New York teams are not part of MAR. Only Eastern PA, NJ, and Delaware.

I'll add in 3974 as the best rookie team not going. Three Rookie Inspiration awards (both of their districts and the MAR Championship), but somehow no rookie all star. Highest rookie seed at Lenape and MAR Championship (#4 seed!). Really knew how to play the game with the bot they had, and were a very effective back court machine.

[Damiaen_Florian]

I'm gonna have to throw 2168 in again, however everything that has needed to be said about them has already been done, so all I can add is that they were one of the best robots without a practice bot that I've seen in a while. And definitelty 188, a consistently solid team that is in a tough area to compete in.

[Duke461]

Compiling teams mentioned in thread + bolded additions of my own....

71
174*
177
188
217
294
343
357
368
829
1056
1625
1730
1771
2168
2168
2481
3138
3487**


*Not on the "going list" unless they're considered one of the "MAR" teams....deadly accurate 3 point shooting, all around beautiful robot.
**Easily one of the most dominant teams at BMR; broke down in semi's.

-Duke

[slijin]

177 As we say around here, "they've made Einstein every year Joe Blay's been on the team". They had a fascinating acquirer - not only did it flip out, offering them the advantage that a wide intake offers, it could acquire from the side as well. Their turret was incredibly accurate - heck, at CT, due to a rules snag with height, they actually just sat at the key while scoring balls that their alliance members fed them. It's a shame that their Einstein streak got shut down by the lack of a CMP ticket.

2168 #1 seed at NYC and CT, their robot had the single most consistent shooter I saw in action. As one of the few strong teams without a wide intake, their drivers were incredibly skilled (and I've heard some ridiculous things about the controls too). Arguably every loss they experienced in eliminations arose from a communications issue that effectively either bricked them or an alliance partner. Fat Swan was definitely division elimination material, if not Einstein-level.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Champs won't be the same without the Bobcats.