Teams to Watch

[Grim Tuesday]

Originally Posted by Tubatroopa

This has an air of Looking Forward to it....

Naah, LF doesn't bold their "ands" between teams

[Tom Line]

It will be interesting to see what happens in the dome. There are some high-powered teams that have been relying on vision up to now, and doing that in the semi-translucent dome with changing lighting may be..... challenging.

In addition, the idea that 100, or even 50 teams can get out and tune their cameras at both ends of the field in 45 minutes should result in a very interesting situation. I hope FIRST realizes what they've done there. Each team will get what... 3 minutes per side of the field? Not including moving from one side to the other?

I'm calling Newton being the champions (with 469, 1717, and 330 (I think 330 will be feeding and playing D, though, but another feeder/defender could work)), and Archimedes will be finalists (I see 67, 2056, and another Canadian team).

[Feroz1325]

Though the bond between 1114 and 2056 is well documented and dominant through their careers, the fact remains that both of them are long bots. As we have seen, most dramatically by 148 at the Alamo, those 40 points can be the deciding factor in many cases. I believe that if either of the Canadian Powerhouses rank first they will choose Team 67 for an easier and more consistent triple balance. If 67 manages to grab the top spot, I believe they will ally with the better key shooter, Simbotics, to mitigate the risk of fender-bender defense. If HOT and Simbotics team up its hard to imagine an alliance to top that!
If anyone can, I presume it would be a 987 and 341 led alliance from Curie.
Just my 2 Canadian Cents

Team 1325 would like to luck to all teams, we will be cheering you all on!

[dodar]

Archimedes:

1. 67, 2056, 245 - W
2. 1114, 1592, 4001 - F
3. 1218, 2590, 190 - SF
4. 2826, 359, 2022 - SF
5. 1676, 1504, 781 - QF
6. 973, 1261, 1902 - QF
7. 1756, 195, 126 - QF
8. 234, 1311, 1403 - QF

Curie:

1. 341, 233, 830 - F
2. 987, 1986, 244 - W
3. 1477, 254, 1678 - SF
4. 971, 624, 51 - QF
5. 525, 1501, 1319 - SF
6. 3098, 78, 2180 - QF
7. 1507, 2474, 3929 - QF
8. 1985, 27, 85 - QF

Galileo:

1. 16, 25, 1583 - F
2. 48, 180, 1038 - W
3. 2337, 801, 3322 - SF
4. 33, 148, 1305 - SF
5. 1323, 2054, 125 - QF
6. 1718, 1732, 2169 - QF
7. 573, 399, 2016 - QF
8. 1714, 1918, 772 - QF

Newton:

1. 469, 1717, 86 - W
2. 548, 111, 45 - SF
3. 330, 118, 11 - F
4. 1023, 610, 2122 - QF
5. 222, 365, 816 - SF
6. 488, 1662, 375 - QF
7. 1126, 4294, 175 - QF
8. 340, 79, 107 - QF

Einstein:

Arch vs Curie - Arch
Galileo vs Newton - Newton

Arch vs Newton - Arch

[qzrrbz]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

I'm calling Newton being the champions (with 469, 1717, and 330 (I think 330 will be feeding and playing D, though, but another feeder/defender could work)), and Archimedes will be finalists (I see 67, 2056, and another Canadian team).

Wow -- getting 330 as 24th robot! That would be beyond awesome!

[Sean Raia]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

Are you joking? 469 and 1717 are the two strongest shooters in FIRST (based on Teleop OPR and most division wins), and are both on Newton. That said, I don't know how good of an alliance they make together. I wouldn't be surprised to see them battling for Newton Champions. Newton has a deeper field than the other divisions (higher avg OPR) so the third robot on the alliance should be a bit better. When you've got the number one and two robots battling the three and four, there isn't much variance. But effect of that third robot could be everything on Einstein.

Like I said, I really don't know much about the powerhouses in Newton.
Does Newton face off against Galileo first? If so then I take back that prediction. I was under the impression they were playing Archimedes first.

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by Sean Raia

Like I said, I really don't know much about the powerhouses in Newton.
Does Newton face off against Galileo first? If so then I take back that prediction. I was under the impression they were playing Archimedes first.

Read the Tournament section of the Manual blar blar blar.

A <--> C

G <--> N

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Sean Raia

Like I said, I really don't know much about the powerhouses in Newton.
Does Newton face off against Galileo first? If so then I take back that prediction. I was under the impression they were playing Archimedes first.

I seem to remember it always being Archimedes vs. Curie and Galileo vs. Newton. Has it ever changed in the modern era?

[Sean Raia]

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

Read the Tournament section of the Manual blar blar blar.

A <--> C

G <--> N

Well that changes things... I now expect to see Archimedes in the finals against Newton.
But I am rooting for Curie division, hoping they can break that curse.

[J_Miles]

I honestly believe that there will be two sure divisions represented in the finals on Einstein. Those are Archimedes and Newton.

On Archimedes, despite the history of 1114 and 2056, I honestly believe this year is not a dominant one for 1114, at least compared to their recent history. I think they're a phenomenal team that will do well on the field - and, I might add, are my favorites to enter the FIRST Hall of Fame this year - but I also think Team 67 is the most likely to seed first on that division. If that is the case, the first machine to come to mind is 2056. We've seen HOT triple with long robots before (548 at the Northville District), and I think a 67/2056 alliance could and would win that division. Teams like 359 and 973 will challenge, but it seems to be HOT's to lose.

Newton is the other very strong division. Against all odds - at such an event, it truly is a serious feat - Team 469 lost only a single match at the Michigan State Championship. On Newton, they'll be looking to go perfect, and they have the tools to do so. With their effective stinger, too, they'll score coopertition points with ease. If they seed #1, they'll have their pick of excellent partners to play with. Teams 548 and 1717 jump out to me as extremely attractive to 469, and an alliance containing either pairing has the potential to be world champions. This, however, could be upset by many other contenders, including the respectable 118 and consistently-excellent 111.

Curie will likely be dominated by Team 341, a robot that has seemed, at times, untouchable; however, with a strong remainder of the field, including perennial powerhouses like 254 and 233, as well as very respectable machines in 51 and 987.

As for Galileo...I'll hold my silence. I'll be behind the glass trying to ensure my own team seeds first, but I think that Galileo is the division with the least clear-cut favorites. It should make for an incredible event!

[Cory]

Originally Posted by J_Miles

Curie will likely be dominated by Team 341, a robot that has seemed, at times, untouchable; however, with a strong remainder of the field, including perennial powerhouses like 254 and 233, as well as very respectable machines in 51 and 987, and the extremely formidable 359, things could be interesting at the least. My best guess would involve 341/359.

Why does everyone think 359 is in curie?

[J_Miles]

Originally Posted by Cory

Why does everyone think 359 is in curie?

My mistake. I had a conversation earlier surrounding those two teams. Not sure how I made that connection.

[MostlyCurious]

Out of interest, shouldn't we also take into consideration special devices for balancing? 1986 and 118 have some amazingly effective tools to get a triple balance and I heard 1477 has something as well. Others with assistance are469, 1918(maybe), 610, and others have special lower gears (624) or brakes (118)

[akoscielski3]

Here's a Video (NOT MADE BY ME) about divisions. This was played during the FRCTop25 show tonight.

Cant wait for champs