Einstein 2012

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by Gregor01

Just wondering but why Galileo? I've seen a few people mention that field as an alternative.

Galileo had the least amount of comm issues form what I've heard.

[EagleEngineer]

One simple way to keep it fair on einstein, is maybe for next year, if a robot is not moving or has connection issues, they should replay the match (until the issues are fixed). I understand that they replayed the Semis, but the same thing happened in the replayed matches. Another thing maybe is to test out the einstein field with real robots before the actual semis happen, (maybe they did its just a suggestion). Anyway this even though this happened this is a good thing, because there is a good chance that there will be improvements to connectivity and the feild, next year.

[DominickC]

If they had replayed every match in which a robot was incapacitated for any length of time, I'd be willing to bet we'd still be watching. A new protocol for dealing with these issues should be put in place. The "it's a problem with your robot" explanation isn't sitting well with anyone. This holds true for Regionals and CMP.

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by DominickC

If they had replayed every match in which a robot was incapacitated for any length of time, I'd be willing to bet we'd still be watching. A new protocol for dealing with these issues should be put in place. The "it's a problem with your robot" explanation isn't sitting well with anyone. This holds true for Regionals and CMP.

Problem is, it is the robot a lot of the time, or it's the connection between FMS and robot. The FMS rarely bugs out, and usually the wifi is pretty solid. I can't speak for 09 or 10 too much, but the D Links take a lot longer to boot up and seem to brick easily. My team has already been through 2.

[Donovan0217]

Originally Posted by 1075guy

They should have moved to Galileo field after the first replay.

They really couldn't have moved, by the time the matches had even started all of the other fields were torn down.

[AmoryG]

Congrats to the champs, you deserved it as much as everyone else did who made it to einstein. But honestly, it's a little sad that I payed more attention to the comments on the webcast than the actual matches themselves. *sigh*

[George Nishimura]

Well, I think that last match showed that the better alliance won the Finals. There were comms problems still. Sigh.

Interesting though that, if I'm not mistaken, not a single triple on Einstein. Mainly due to comms, but even in that last match the blue alliance didn't try it.

I'm not sure how they managed to get 16 as their third pick, but congratulations to 180, 25, 16 for becoming World Champions!

Commiserations to 987/233/207 for being finalists, and 2056/1114/4334 and 118/548/2194 for reaching Einstein!

It wasn't exactly free of problems, and it wasn't the spectacle we all were expecting and hoped for, but the Championship Event itself was pretty amazing to watch. I'm glad I sacrificed my revision to watch it.

[miriad]

As a volunteer that works with FMS regularly- it logs everything. Absolutely everything. Any scoring, robot/ds communications (packet logging, I think), and any problems

[miriad]

118 did run flawlessly on Newton though, not even the least connection problem.

[NickTosta]

Originally Posted by Gnishi2011

Didn't 118 have a similar problem at CT?

Yeah. Never dropped communication once the whole competition once the whole time. In the semifinals they didnt move.

Originally Posted by miriad

118 did run flawlessly on Newton though, not even the least connection problem.

Yup. Just like CT. Strange, huh?

Oh, and didnt they work perfectly at lone star and the alamo?

[Sean Raia]

The curse persists. Hey, at least it was a clean match.

[Lil' Lavery]

Not a single triple balance on Einstein because half of the robots that would have done were sitting dead. What a joke.

[Ryan Dognaux]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Not a single triple balance on Einstein because half of the robots that would have done were sitting dead. What a joke.

Quoted for truth. It's so incredibly sad. These teams put in thousands of man-hours and dedicate an entire season to achieving near robot perfection. And how are they rewarded? With field connection issue. What an embarrassment of a finale that Einstein was, the FIRST community is going to have a lot to say on this one. Why spend the time to compete in this competition if field issues are going to be the downfall of us at one point or another? I know we are in this for more than the robots, but it's incredibly frustrating when the even playing field we are all supposed to be playing on is anything but because of technical issues on FIRST's side.

[dag0620]

Originally Posted by Gregor01

Just wondering but why Galileo? I've seen a few people mention that field as an alternative.

Also it was the field closest to Einstein, so it would make sense to go their first.

[lemiant]

We'd do it! We were planning on applying and making the treck anyway. Is the invite a real thing?