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Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1

To those saying that the "Eh Team" should exclude 4334 just because 2056 and 1114 team up a lot...

4334 was critical to that strategy. I know 1114 and 2056 had practiced tripling numerous times before champs with a regular sized wide robot, but I'm sure it wasn't nearly as pretty as the balancing on Archimedes. Seriously, who would have thought that two long robots could pull off a >10 second triple? It was all thanks to 4334. I know that second alliance was banking on you guys being left in the draft.

In my opinion 4334 was THE steal of Archimedes, and if it wasn't for 16, they would have been the steal of all four divisions. These guys were perfect for uber-fast balancing, had an excellent bridge manipulator, were awesome at stealing balls and, most importantly, basically solidified 2056 and 1114's balances. Could 2056+1114 won Archimedes with another wide robot? This FIRSTer doubts it. Kudos to you, 4334. In my mind, there is no doubt that without you there would be no "Eh Team."
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Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1

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To those saying that the "Eh Team" should exclude 4334 just because 2056 and 1114 team up a lot...

4334 was critical to that strategy. I know 1114 and 2056 had practiced tripling numerous times before champs with a regular sized wide robot, but I'm sure it wasn't nearly as pretty as the balancing on Archimedes. Seriously, who would have thought that two long robots could pull off a >10 second triple? It was all thanks to 4334. I know that second alliance was banking on you guys being left in the draft.

In my opinion 4334 was THE steal of Archimedes, and if it wasn't for 16, they would have been the steal of all four divisions. These guys were perfect for uber-fast balancing, had an excellent bridge manipulator, were awesome at stealing balls and, most importantly, basically solidified 2056 and 1114's balances. Could 2056+1114 won Archimedes with another wide robot? This FIRSTer doubts it. Kudos to you, 4334. In my mind, there is no doubt that without you there would be no "Eh Team."
I think that 1114 and 2056 are the "eh team" because they always work together and are really good at winning when they do so. 4334 is not always with this dynamic duo. In other words, we are not referring to the championship alliance, but the normal powerhouse of 1114 and 2056.

Edit:: I did like 4334 and their bot this year, and I am not saying anything against them. Just become part of the regular alliance and they can join the "eh team" too.
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Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1

its not a stereotypical thing. We actually do say it a lot. If I try and notice when i say it, i say it a lot. I dont notice i say it though, unless i really try to, or try and see when other people say it.

But i'm thinking we should just call 1114 and 2056 the Eh-Team. love that it was an all Canadian alliance and all but 1114 and 2056 are a team by themselves, kinda like Sister Teams. No offence 4334. Love u guys
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Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1

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yea, it was a 25 point difference, but really close. If this alliance didn't play the "Eh Team" first round, I think a lot of heads would've been turned towards this alliance's power.
I agree entirely, OP and Simbotics have worked together a lot before, so they knew how to play their game... i don't believe we even had a match with 2415 or 195 before we formed our alliance. Had we the chance, I'm sure we could've really worked out a rhythm together, and turned a lot of heads.
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Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1

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It ended up being a 25 point differential so with the double we still would've lost by 5 points. I believe we were ahead of them before they went to triple tho, so had we done the same we would've won. Instead i think we we were skeptical about their tripling capabilities and it came back to bite us in the end.
Yeah, if we had tripled we definitely would have won that match. I think part of the problem though was that in that match a ball was stuck under the bridge or something, which is why we couldn't really triple in time. The bridge had to be tipped from the other side which kind of threw everything off.

Just so everyone else knows, we tried tripling on the practice field in two configurations - with 2415 going up last and with 2046 going up last. We didn't have a chance to try it with us (195) going up last. We had a feeling that us going up last would have worked, but because we never got to actually try it that kind of added to the confusion on the field during the first match.

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I agree entirely, OP and Simbotics have worked together a lot before, so they knew how to play their game... i don't believe we even had a match with 2415 or 195 before we formed our alliance. Had we the chance, I'm sure we could've really worked out a rhythm together, and turned a lot of heads.
Well, I think our 4-second triple balance in QF3-2 had to have turned some heads. You could tell from the first match (with the really disorganized triple balance attempt) that we weren't all quite on the same page. That definitely improved for the second match but the alliance just barely came up short.

By the way, what ended up happening to you guys between QF3-1 and QF3-2? It looked like something happened to your intake but I never got a chance to ask, I ended up getting distracted by something then forgot.

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Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1

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By the way, what ended up happening to you guys between QF3-1 and QF3-2? It looked like something happened to your intake but I never got a chance to ask, I ended up getting distracted by something then forgot.
I was told something like our whole shooter got messed up (i myself wasn't there, i was watching on the webcast and calling the team from home.) So i don't think we even shot a single ball that match. i wish they had the full video of qf3-2 up... we were supposed to feed our hybrid balls to 2415 for hybrid but the field crew wouldn't let our drive team back on the field to place our hybrid balls... but one of the field crew did it for us. The balls jammed in hybrid though because they weren't placed correctly, and this just really upset me... esspecially when we lost by only 11 points.
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Instead i think we we were skeptical about their tripling capabilities and it came back to bite us in the end.
That was your mistake.

I'm not sure how well known it is outside of Canada, but 1114 and 2056 (along with a number of other teams, including 3161, and 2852) share a practice facility. A closed Niagara district school board school. They have a full practice field, complete with field elements built to the real (not low-cost) specs set up in that school's gymnasium.

As soon as 2056 chose 1114 in Archi alliance selections (and I knew they'd added their stingers for GTRWest), I knew that there would be triples. Beautiful, alarmingly well practiced triples. I was sure they'd practiced that move together so many times at home with a generic wide-bot (possibly 2852 or 3161) that it would be flawless.
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Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1

yea, if the 7 seeded alliance knew about the tripling capabilities, I think the alliance would've done much better. Once 2415 got the bridge lowered in the 2nd match, it took what, 3 seconds to triple with them?
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