CAD Revision Control

[baronep]

Last season, we cad-ed our robot for the first time and used dropbox to manage collaboration between cadders (we had 7). To be blunt, it sucked (but to be fair it wasn't designed for it). Everything worked fine until we combined subsystems and then everything fell apart. Because of the intertwined dependencies, only one person could work on the robot at a time from that point on. I vividly remember doing lightening patterns at 2am.

It seems that products like Autodesk Vault are the professional worlds way of tackling this problem. Has anyone been able to get a copy of this from Autodesk?

If not, how does your team deal with this problem?

[Walter Deitzler]

I know that you can download Vault, because I have, but I do not have any experience with it, as I am the only CAD member on my team.

Edit: You should be able to download it here: http://students.autodesk.com/?nd=fir...12-LA-1-6-2012
You will need to log in if you have a FIRST autodesk account, but then navigate to available downloads and it should be there.

[baronep]

Thats what I thought as well, but it seems that they have removed vault from the free student software?

[Walter Deitzler]

Originally Posted by baronep

Thats what I thought as well, but it seems that they have removed vault from the free student software?

Hmm, I just checked and that seems to be the case. It downloads when you download inventor pro though.

[baronep]

Ok, I am trying that right now. Does that install the server too or just the client?

[Walter Deitzler]

Originally Posted by baronep

Ok, I am trying that right now. Does that install the server too or just the client?

I believe it installs the servers, but as said, I have never tried using vault as I am the only one on my team who uses the software, so I have never tried this.

[avanboekel]

This last season was the first season that we had more than 1 person doing a significant amount of cadding. We tried using autodesk cloud early in the season, which didn't work well at all. For the rest of the season, we had each student put their work on a team flash drive at the end of each night. This worked fairly well, but it was a pain to have only one person being able to work on the complete assembly as a time. From our experiences, there is no one good way to have many people working on the same model at the same time. Please report back on what you think of vault as it may be something that our teams would look into for using next season.

[baronep]

I am still having trouble finding the installation for Vault.

We used Solidworks last season and the only reason that we were thinking of switching was because of vault. I have found the Solidworks version of vault on the installation disk, but I am still interested in figuring out how to get inventor to work.

From what I can gather, only the vault client is installed with Inventor. What I am looking for is ADMS (Autodesk Data Management Server). Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this?

[thefro526]

Vault can be really neat, we're starting to phase it in at work. I don't have too much experience with it, but from what I've seen, it helps a lot when multiple people are working on/with the same model.

Also, on the subject of multiple people working on different subsystems, having frequent meetings to update everyone on the design can be really, really helpful and save time down the road, especially if everyone is in the same place as subsystems start to get integrated. Also, On a few of the larger projects I've worked on at my job, we've allotted volume for different components from the beginning and worked out some part inference issues without even drawing the entire part - it really saves a ton of time.

[baronep]

Still confused on where to actually get the vault server from

[agamemnon]

Originally Posted by LedLover96

Hmm, I just checked and that seems to be the case. It downloads when you download inventor pro though.

I think that's the Vault Client software (which can be used to browse through a Vault server), not the server itself. The only place I've seen the server software is in this post, which has a download to the 2012 (not 2013), and in the Inventor software boxes that used to come in the KoP (there wasn't one this year, I don't think).

[lynca]

Originally Posted by baronep

Last season, we cad-ed our robot for the first time and used dropbox to manage collaboration between cadders (we had 7). To be blunt, it sucked (but to be fair it wasn't designed for it). Everything worked fine until we combined subsystems and then everything fell apart. Because of the intertwined dependencies, only one person could work on the robot at a time from that point on. I vividly remember doing lightening patterns at 2am.

Agreed, the dropbox solution is not ideal for sharing CAD files.

Originally Posted by baronep

If not, how does your team deal with this problem?

In a work setting , I have been able to use SVN to keep track of CAD revisions.

However, most teams don't have the online size for large SVN hosting.

[baronep]

Any ideas for getting ahold of the server software. I found out that the Solidworks version is local only, limited remote access.

[Madison]

Reposting your question won't make anyone answer it any faster. When someone that knows the answer comes along, they can answer it.

[the.miler]

My Vote: Use Subversion! You have to set up a server, of course, but otherwise it is very convenient. Not just for CAD, but for everything that you need to be able to revert or share. We use it for the CAD files, software, documents . . . everything.

For those who can't use command prompt, there are lots of graphical interfaces you can download. For Windows, TortoiseSVN is very good.

It's a pretty nice system; you download and frequently update your own copy of the repository. You commit your changes to the main copy on the server that everyone updates from. Of course, if more than one person is working at once on the same file, whoever commits first wins. In that case, whoever loses the "commit race" has to revert and try again!

You can avoid such heartbreak by staying in communication with people and splitting up the work. We used a Google doc as a "logbook" in which people signed in when they started working and indicated what they were working on.

Read the SVN Redbook for anything I might have missed . . . I hope this helps.