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Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

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Anyone know what matches had triples in them?
Here are the ones I recall off the top of my head.

3 triples were in matches involving 48 - Matches 28, 62, and 99.

Whether or not they were helpful or particularly entertaining for yours truly, I leave as an exercise for the reader to determine.

233 lost Match 75 to a triple after they were leading.

2826 lost Match 97 to a triple after they were leading.

340 tripled twice, one time with 341 and 447, in Match 72, defeating 469, 359, and 2337. I believe their other triple came during Match 101.

By the way, why did all the scouting geniuses picking for elims overlook 3940? They are peppered throughout these qualifying triple results.
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Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

1592 tripled twice but 1 was disallowed. Match 57 when we were with 1538, this was the disallowed triple, and match 103 when we were with 340 and 1023.
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Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

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By the way, why did all the scouting geniuses picking for elims overlook 3940? They are peppered throughout these qualifying triple results.
They were also close to 4334's width, too. I am disappoint.
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Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

In match 76, teams 27, 4334, and 2194 balanced even though they didn't need the triple balance.
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Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

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3 triples were in matches involving 48 - Matches 28, 62, and 99.

Whether or not they were helpful or particularly entertaining for yours truly, I leave as an exercise for the reader to determine.
Based on your win-loss record, which matches you played that involved triples, and our scouting data the IRI rule changes had no effect on the fact that you didn't make eliminations. In other words, I think the fear/discussion going into the event was unnecessary.
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Based on your win-loss record, which matches you played that involved triples, and our scouting data the IRI rule changes had no effect on the fact that you didn't make eliminations. In other words, I think the fear/discussion going into the event was unnecessary.
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Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

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Here are the OPR numbers including total, hybrid, bridge and teleop OPR.

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OPR Rank/Team/OPR/OPR Hybrid/OPR Bridge/OPR Teleop
1	341	52.46	15.85	10.14	18.46
2	624	41.46	14.10	9.91	16.15
3	118	37.00	2.92	6.60	23.44
4	1023	36.84	8.30	10.66	11.37
5	2826	36.57	13.18	2.08	24.41
6	67	36.40	15.39	5.72	17.20
7	2056	34.26	12.73	7.56	17.51
8	233	33.98	7.88	5.24	22.92
9	469	33.97	3.13	4.65	23.59
10	51	33.80	5.29	10.45	16.84
11	68	33.00	12.51	4.30	9.13
12	2614	32.60	8.62	9.28	10.69
13	33	31.66	6.00	10.10	16.07
14	48	31.23	10.14	8.22	13.18
15	16	31.16	10.80	4.17	12.57
16	1676	30.72	9.35	5.87	16.47
17	2168	29.88	11.47	-1.05	8.35
18	548	29.79	9.43	9.93	11.04
19	1114	29.09	9.60	2.50	15.39
20	125	28.79	11.10	3.75	13.52
21	359	27.54	5.05	2.99	22.88
22	1741	26.97	8.94	7.06	7.65
23	1714	26.68	8.19	7.21	10.81
24	340	26.55	11.95	6.84	7.14
25	111	26.11	13.99	2.53	9.62
26	148	25.98	5.50	8.57	14.30
27	1640	25.74	9.67	5.76	7.46
28	3322	25.39	9.26	6.85	11.35
29	330	24.37	1.28	7.43	13.74
30	2590	23.89	7.17	2.41	14.07
31	192	23.38	5.50	1.32	9.42
32	2337	23.03	13.71	6.07	3.84
33	868	22.41	6.71	2.15	13.22
34	3947	21.38	8.92	6.36	8.84
35	1732	20.87	7.59	6.78	8.73
36	2194	20.04	4.29	5.26	7.30
37	234	20.03	9.86	3.93	6.91
38	573	19.91	4.99	6.49	11.93
39	3357	19.66	4.22	1.81	9.60
40	2949	19.58	6.34	5.49	8.42
41	3193	19.27	7.12	6.81	6.75
42	503	19.26	7.25	0.45	14.00
43	461	19.20	2.85	4.65	8.39
44	2834	19.16	7.60	6.13	1.79
45	2481	19.11	10.93	0.63	4.14
46	3940	18.77	7.95	6.06	1.81
47	973	18.77	7.22	6.92	4.49
48	447	18.67	3.70	-1.89	13.57
49	3138	17.80	6.60	3.53	9.80
50	71	17.13	5.48	1.72	3.15
51	1538	16.15	9.76	2.11	6.29
52	2054	15.78	7.04	3.04	6.37
53	45	14.67	7.20	7.00	3.60
54	27	14.11	2.07	3.42	10.23
55	4334	13.56	2.18	4.55	3.62
56	399	13.37	6.08	-0.32	7.32
57	829	13.08	2.10	-1.89	8.55
58	781	12.65	1.40	5.37	7.35
59	379	12.20	6.15	-2.11	8.62
60	3310	10.97	7.14	4.09	-2.50
61	245	10.58	6.33	0.51	4.13
62	217	9.73	6.88	0.54	2.14
63	1730	9.40	9.72	0.91	0.40
64	744	9.20	3.82	1.57	4.06
65	772	8.73	2.75	5.86	1.73
66	1592	8.10	2.00	-3.31	8.58
67	907	7.51	0.21	-2.47	10.07
68	292	3.19	3.54	-2.67	4.06
69	1902	1.37	3.63	-0.31	-1.24
70	1024	-0.43	0.71	-2.81	2.70
What did you do to calculate the subset opr if only the raw red/blue scores were posted (unless I'm missing something).
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What did you do to calculate the subset opr if only the raw red/blue scores were posted (unless I'm missing something).
The information needed to calculate subset OPR is from the standings sheet HP, BP and TP which are the total of hybrid, bridge and teleop points. It is very convenient to use. When solving Ax=B for total OPR, we use total score of all matches for each team as B. For subset OPR, B is simply HP, BP and TP. This is the same way I have been calculating them all season and it matches what Bongle gets with his calculation.
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The information needed to calculate subset OPR is from the standings sheet HP, BP and TP which are the total of hybrid, bridge and teleop points. It is very convenient to use. When solving Ax=B for total OPR, we use total score of all matches for each team as B. For subset OPR, B is simply HP, BP and TP. This is the same way I have been calculating them all season and it matches what Bongle gets with his calculation.
Although this requires more initial information, would it be more accurate to know the specific HP, TP and BP for each match?
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No, the results would be identical. Even if I have the individual match HP, BP and TP, I will add them up to put into the vector B so it is the same results.

However if you have the individual team's HP, BP and TP, then there is no point getting their calculated contribution because you already have the actual number.
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One of the FTA's or the lead scorer can confirm this, but I believe the max bridge points in qualification matches was 20, the scoring system won't let you do any more than that. The scores were manually adjusted to add the extra 20 for any triples.
Chris and Matt are right. During Qualification rounds FMS can only handle a maximum of 20 Bridge Points because during the regular season that is all that was allowed. Bravo (the scorekeeper) added the 20 points manually if there was a triple balance. There was no way to record these as bridge points so that is why the ranking sheet and the displays at the end of the matches are inaccurate.
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