Game Hint Hint

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Originally Posted by dcarr

Oh man...a hint about a hint...this is too meta

Yeah. i sense a subtle a Troll among us..

[Gary Dillard]

You have to put your team number on your bumpers in Meso-American Numbers (4" Stroke X 3/4" wide, of course)

[Gary Dillard]

Originally Posted by Sean Raia

Also, they are releasing this game hint on the day(21) that corresponds to the number of the game (this will be the 21st game).
Just an interesting tidbit

Close - it will actually be the 22nd game

[BigJ]

Originally Posted by Gary Dillard

Close - it will actually be the 22nd game

Not if you start counting at 0.

[Sean Raia]

Originally Posted by Gary Dillard

Close - it will actually be the 22nd game

Ah wow, don't know why I didn't see that.

I agree though, that we should certainly drop the Mayan/End of the world theme. I doubt FIRST would use that silly, misinterpreted prediction as part of a worldwide robotics competition theme.

I think focusing on WHY they released a hint about a hint, and what's in the wording of the hint, is at least on the right track.

[coalhot]

Water Game!

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by coalhot

Water Game!

The 6WD fish on that shirt will not pass inspection -- bumper rules. Sorry.

Or ... just maybe ... revised bumper rules? Could it happen?

[Walter Deitzler]

Lets think about the other hint for a second.

Rick Astley at 3:00 in the "Never Gonna Give You Up" video. We speculate that this might just mean more autonomous period, an extra 30 seconds of it.

But with the end of the world (12/21) being tied to this hint, we have interpreted something new about the end game.

Maybe the hint means a longer endgame, an extra 30 seconds to do whatever the endgame task is. This could mean a more difficult or complex endgame.

Thoughts?

[Saberbot]

Originally Posted by LedLover96

Lets think about the other hint for a second.

Rick Astley at 3:00 in the "Never Gonna Give You Up" video. We speculate that this might just mean more autonomous period, an extra 30 seconds of it.

But with the end of the world (12/21) being tied to this hint, we have interpreted something new about the end game.

Maybe the hint means a longer endgame, an extra 30 seconds to do whatever the endgame task is. This could mean a more difficult or complex endgame.

Thoughts?

What about an Auto/Hybrid endgame? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't remember a game where it has been done before.
It would be neat if there was one thing that varied that required one team on the alliance to use the kinect. I can see this being very exciting to watch, except for matches/events with teams with low programming skills.

Edit/Expansion:

This caught my eye while re-reading the blog post:

Well, I’m looking at a game hint right now, and, wow! That is one nice game hint. But we’re not quite ready to release it yet. We’ll be doing that on 12/21.

What if there were an element on the field that released part way through the match? I am imagining something similar to the 2004 ball release, but on a timer that activated it words the end of the match. It would be really cool to see the field change right before an autonomous endgame, and it would certainly present a large challenge.

[Saberbot]

Originally Posted by Saberbot

What about an Auto/Hybrid endgame? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't remember a game where it has been done before.
It would be neat if there was one thing that varied that required one team on the alliance to use the kinect. I can see this being very exciting to watch, except for matches/events with teams with low programming skills.

Edit/Expansion:

This caught my eye while re-reading the blog post:

What if there were an element on the field that released part way through the match? I am imagining something similar to the 2004 ball release, but on a timer that activated it words the end of the match. It would be really cool to see the field change right before an autonomous endgame, and it would certainly present a large challenge.

Bump from a couple hours ago...

[joelg236]

Originally Posted by Saberbot

Bump from a couple hours ago...

Well there you go, didn't catch that. This feels very right, and would be really cool to see what we could do with it. If this ends up being true, credit goes to you.

[pfreivald]

A longer game would surprise me, if only because FIRST events have a tendency to run over time as it is...

Unless of course, you had more than six robots per game.

[Saberbot]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

A longer game would surprise me, if only because FIRST events have a tendency to run over time as it is...

Unless of course, you had more than six robots per game.

Good Point.
If a large regional has 120 matches, adding 15 seconds to each match adds one half hour to the tournament. I can imagine that being squeezed in, but it would be a stretch.

[brndn]

Originally Posted by Ultimatum

What if the endgame IS the autonomous period?

That would be cool...

Originally Posted by pfreivald

Unless of course, you had more than six robots per game.

So would that...

Originally Posted by Saberbot

It would be really cool to see the field change right before an autonomous endgame

And this too...

I think no matter what, the game will be something different and something challenging. And Rick Astley will perform in St. Louis, of course.

[Ultimatum]

Originally Posted by LedLover96

Lets think about the other hint for a second.

Rick Astley at 3:00 in the "Never Gonna Give You Up" video. We speculate that this might just mean more autonomous period, an extra 30 seconds of it.

But with the end of the world (12/21) being tied to this hint, we have interpreted something new about the end game.

Maybe the hint means a longer endgame, an extra 30 seconds to do whatever the endgame task is. This could mean a more difficult or complex endgame.

Thoughts?

What if the endgame IS the autonomous period?

15 seconds of autonomous in the beginning, 2 minutes of match play, and then another 15 seconds of autonomous at the end. That would be a way to implement the Kinect, as the advantages seem numerous in being able to control what you do on the fly. It would also raise the question of whether you perform the endgame during tele-op and sit there for the second autonomous, or trust your autonomous code to do it for you, allowing you to use those last precious seconds of user control.