Climbing Rules

[Tetraman]

It appears so. You have to climb one step at a time. Considering that the floor is level 0, that means you must climb onto level 1 and be completely off the ground before heading into level 2, and then completely out of level 1 before you can enter level 3.

[JHammond]

A close rereading of the rules makes me believe this is OK:

A ROBOT Has Climbed the Pyramid if it contacts the pyramid in:
A: Sequential Order (levels 0,1,2,3)) during ascent
B: no more that 2 levels simultaneously

So even to a bot is hooking around the horizontal bar, it's only contacting the zone the bar is in, even if it it extends into the upper plane.

[bolintb]

Thanks for all the clarification. I got "NOT AVAILABLE" on the Q&A site.

What about grabbing the corner post above the 30" bar? I think our robot would be in 0, 1, and 2 (i.e. on the ground, clearly in zone 1, and claw in zone 2).

WOuld this be illegal?

[Norsk]

When can we start climbing the pyrimid? Is there a set time that we are suppose to climb or at any point during the round can we start our ascent?


thanks

team 3662

[Bryan Herbst]

There are no restrictions on when you can begin climbing the pyramid.

[Sean M]

Agreed, there are no restrictions on contacting your own pyramid.

[mega900997]

Does anyone know when you can start climbing the pyramid during the match?

[Bluelightning]

I also am curious about this. Can we climb at any time, or just during the endgame?

[MatthewWalker]

My team is having some trouble understanding how climbing the tower works with regards to zones . could someone please clarify for us?

[Sean M]

The zones are explained in section 3.2.4.2 such that level 0 is on the ground, level 1 is above the ground and below the first bar, level 2 is between the first and second bars, and level 3 is above the second bar. The lowest point on your robot as it is hanging is what will be used to determine the level -- and parts A and B of 3.2.4.2 specify what validates a "CLIMB."

 [G22] Robots must contact the pyramid in 
A. sequential order (Level 0, 1, 2, 3) during ascent and 
B. no more than two (2) Levels simultaneously.

The paragraph at the end means that you cannot skip up bars. So you can climb from the first bar to second bar and hang in level 1 for 10 points, but if you go from the ground to the second bar still in level 1 zone you get no points (invalidated climb) because you didn't climb in sequential order.

Does that help?

[MatthewWalker]

thank you very much!

[brndn]

Also note that the levels include the width of the bar above them, shown in the field tour video and figure 3-4 in section 3.1.5.2 of the game manual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...tMJA4g#t=36 s

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by bolintb

Thanks for all the clarification. I got "NOT AVAILABLE" on the Q&A site.

They commonly don't open the site for a couple days, so as to avoid posting of stupid questions that can be answered with a second read of the manual. Not that this thread is stupid - I'm sure there will be plenty of clarifications on the scoring zones, the ladder 0-1-2-3 rule, etc.

What about grabbing the corner post above the 30" bar? I think our robot would be in 0, 1, and 2 (i.e. on the ground, clearly in zone 1, and claw in zone 2).

Would this be illegal?

Problems. You've got 2 possibilities here:
1. Touching zone 0 (floor) and zone 2 (corner bar above the 30" bar) but not touching zone 1 - illegal because you skipped a zone.
2. Touching all 3 (0, 1 and 2) - illegal because you can only touch 2 zones at a time.

[Christopher149]

Originally Posted by JHammond

Imagine a robot that placed a pair of hooks over the bar @ 30", while the robot is on the ground.

Is the robot in zones 0,1, and 2 and therefore executing an illegal climb?

Here's my interpretation of the rule, which states:

Originally Posted by 3.1.5.2 CLIMB Points

A ROBOT has CLIMBED its PYRAMID if it contacts the PYRAMID in

sequential order (Level 0, 1, 2, 3) during ascent and
no more than two (2) Levels simultaneously.

The key point is contacting the pyramid. If you grab onto the bottom rung, you are touching level 0 (the floor) and the pyramid in level 1. However, you are not touching the pyramid in level 2, and so it is okay.

[GaryVoshol]

Several threads of similar subject merged into one.