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Climbing Up and back again
We have come upon an interesting issue with the climbing rules. It seems that nothing requires the robot remain on the tower at the end of the game--scoring is based upon reaching a level of the tower. See rule 3.1.5.2:
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Emphasis mine. Does this mean that a robot may climb up the tower at the beginning of the game, validate a climb, and have the score count at the end even if they immediately descend? Also, from the introduction: Quote:
Another relevant rule: Quote:
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Re: Climbing Up and back again
My suspicion is each ROBOT can only receive points for one CLIMB in a given MATCH, and if the rules don't explicitly say so somewhere, that it will likely be fixed in a Team Update.
It wouldn't be very exciting to watch a match consisting of robots playing elevator on the pyramids. |
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I have to note that the animation explicitly says that robots must remain there at the end of the game so maybe that was (very sadly) the GDC's intent. |
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Another proposed argument against the possibility of climbing up, earning points, and climbing back down is G4:
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Re: Climbing Up and back again
Definitely something they need to clarify, and quick!
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Re: Climbing Up and back again
A FAQ question, sure to be addressed in the first Team Update for sure.
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From the animation: "Robots can climb up the sides or corners of the pyramid, but they have to remain there as the game ends to collect their bonuses."
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This doesn't make sense. From the manual, however, it doesn't state this. Perhaps an update is in the future???
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The rules are certainly misleading, however I am trying to understand the advantage of this... The only one I see is if you did it in autonomous mode to get it out of the way and then could focus on scoring discs the rest of the round. But depending on your method, it might waste a lot of time climbing back down safely.
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Re: Climbing Up and back again
The game animation is not official and shouldn't be relied upon. here's my interpretation of why you're incorrect, but it's not absolute.
3.2.4.2: The Level to which a ROBOT has CLIMBED is determined by the lowest point of the ROBOT. 3.2.4 Final scores will be assess five seconds after the ARENA timer displays zero or when all elements come to rest, whichever event happens first. To me, this suggests that that the climb is assessed after the end of the match. I believe the "highest Level" language is because a Level 3 climb also counts as a Level 2 climb and a Level 1 climb, not because of multiple tries. Ask the Q&A. |
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Re: Climbing Up and back again
Just to pull from section 1 of the game manual:
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Also: A level 3 climb cannot count as a level 2 climb (and so on) because the level is determined by the lowest point of the robot. |
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So, basically you can't have a "system" attach at level two and pull you up, you have to go one at a time?
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The way I see it, yes. You have to go from the floor (Level 0) to level 1. Then before you get to level 2, you have to get up off the floor. And before you get to level 3, you have to get off level 1.
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Adding 2 questions to this discussion:
1. Can you use another robot to assist you in your "climb"? 2. Is your robot allowed to start inside the pyramid? |
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There is nothing from what I hae seen that restricts where you start your climb so long as you touch the levels in the proper order. |
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