Climbing Mechanism Ideas

[amesmich]

I dont think I read anythign pertaining to this but before a climb could a bot disconnect its drive system and essentially leave it behind to reduce weight and size? Obviously the rio, battery, and control would climb but the drive train abandoned? The whole thing woudl be designed as a quick disconnect.

[nathan_hui]

No
The robot cannot intentionally leave parts behind. G13

[amesmich]

Dam I missed that. I wasnt just posting for an answer.

[who716]

Originally Posted by Rishabhgadi

That was my initial idea, but you would not reach past the first level because of the notches on the side which stick out about an inch.

You could have a mechanism that grabs onto the notches lift you up just enough that you can then go back to climbing the rail

[Garten Haeska]

I've read through this entire thread and i was just confused. Are you allowed to drive into the pyramid and latch onto the second rung and winch yourselves up or do you have to touch the first rung first? Or is it that if you are outside the pyramid and latch onto the second rung and winch your self to victory? Are they both legal? Neither? Please help or at least some clarification.

[Cal578]

Originally Posted by Garten Haeska

I've read through this entire thread and i was just confused. Are you allowed to drive into the pyramid and latch onto the second rung and winch yourselves up or do you have to touch the first rung first? Or is it that if you are outside the pyramid and latch onto the second rung and winch your self to victory? Are they both legal? Neither? Please help or at least some clarification.

[I underlined the part I'm responding to.]

This would not be a legal climb (it would get 0 points). Game Manual section 3.1.5.2 says the robot must contact the pyramid levels in sequential order. This proposal would contact level 0 (floor) and 2 (second rung), but not level 1.

If you modify this somehow to make it valid, it would be 20 points.

[vikesrock777]

Originally Posted by Garten Haeska

I've read through this entire thread and i was just confused. Are you allowed to drive into the pyramid and latch onto the second rung and winch yourselves up or do you have to touch the first rung first? Or is it that if you are outside the pyramid and latch onto the second rung and winch your self to victory? Are they both legal? Neither? Please help or at least some clarification.

To expand on what Cal578 said, you need to make sure you observe both of the rules when performing your climb.

A ROBOT has CLIMBED its PYRAMID if it contacts the PYRAMID and/or the floor (Level 0) in

sequential order (Level 0, 1, 2, 3) during ascent and
no more than two (2) Levels simultaneously.

In order for a legal climb to get to level 2 points, you need to contact sequentially and contact no more than 2 levels simultaneously. This means that you must first contact the pyramid at level one and lift yourself such that you are no longer contacting the floor (level 0). Only then can you contact level 2 and lift yourself into that zone.

[Cal578]

I'm glad vikesrock expanded on what I said. I actually meant to respond to both proposals. I don't know why I only underlined the second. There isn't any difference (from a rules point of view) between climbing inside or outside the pyramid.

[jake517]

Where exactly is the auto zone? My team would like know exactly where on the field your robot can go up to 84 inches?

[AndyBare]

Your colored carpet and i believe feeding station, not sure about the latter though

[MetalJacket]

The auto zones are the areas marked out but the long pieces of red and blue tape that cross the fields on the side of the pyramids closest to the center of the field. If you look at the field drawings in the manual, look for the biggest pieces of colored tape. Whenever you are contacting carpet within the zone or are touching the pyramid, you can go to 84".

[NOV8R]

Look what they did a few years back in FTC. Look familar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjEtPgTrYPQ

[MetalJacket]

Yeah, that was VEX round up. The biggest difference between then and now is that in round up, you could latch on to the top and pull yourself all the way up which is, unfortunately, illegal in Ultimate Ascent.

[NOV8R]

That's true , but only grabbing the second rung with s similar technique would get you 10 points.

[falconmaster]

Ok it took awhile to find, but here is a climbing robot that could climb our pyramid legally

http://robotzeitgeist.com/tag/climbing-robot