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How far are people shooting?

I don't know if their is a thread for this already but I was wondering if we are shooting to short, when our shooter is flat it is shooting around 12-14 feet we are just trying to experiment with angles we did 10 and got to 15 feet. How far is the typical first team shooting if they are doing a shooter?
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Re: How far are people shooting?

10 feet 8 3/4 inches give or take 1000th of an inch. Boy I hope the feild is build to spec?
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Re: How far are people shooting?

We were able to get 48feet or so with a relatively good accuracy (for a prototype). I'm holding onto hope for a full court shot, but it's still a stretch.

For the sake of sharing, we have a curved shooter wall with a ~7" wheel in the middle, and ~10.5" between the wheel tread and the curved wall, wired directly to a cim motor
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Re: How far are people shooting?

We were hitting the 3pt shot from 25ft, and I'm sure we could do 30-35ft.

Inline shooter - with 8.5" wheels.
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Re: How far are people shooting?

FRC2168 is designing to shoot a few different distances less then 122".
FRC558 is going for a lot less distance than that right now.

Our question during prototyping: Why shoot farther then you need to?
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Re: How far are people shooting?

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FRC2168 is designing to shoot a few different distances less then 122".
FRC558 is going for a lot less distance than that right now.

Our question during prototyping: Why shoot farther then you need to?
So you don't have to drive as far to get discs from the feeder station, which will save time which will allow you to shoot more discs...
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Re: How far are people shooting?

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So you don't have to drive as far to get discs from the feeder station, which will save time which will allow you to shoot more discs...
Assuming no one's in your way or bumping you to throw off your aim, of course.

We're figuring we'll save more time and be more accurate if we back into the pyramid to set our range and aim, then fire from there. And pop forward to tag an opponent and draw a foul if they're trying to block us, of course.
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Assuming no one's in your way or bumping you to throw off your aim, of course.

We're figuring we'll save more time and be more accurate if we back into the pyramid to set our range and aim, then fire from there. And pop forward to tag an opponent and draw a foul if they're trying to block us, of course.
Agreed, we have a similar plan, just at a different location on the pyramid.

Our shot is farther away from the goal so there is definitely the added variance in that, but I like our chances to be able to shoot more by not having to drive as far.
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Re: How far are people shooting?

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We're figuring we'll save more time and be more accurate if we back into the pyramid to set our range and aim, then fire from there. And pop forward to tag an opponent and draw a foul if they're trying to block us, of course.

If you pop forward solely to draw a foul, does 18-1 come into play here and negate the foul on the blocker?


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Re: How far are people shooting?

Yesterday, our prototype shooter (CIM and miniCIM directly driving 2 8" AM pneumatic wheels) was easily firing across our 30' practice room with little vertical drop.

Our team plans to be versatile with shooting positions, as we have our shooter on a tilting mount, but I expect we'll primarily be firing from the back of our pyramid and from the feeder station (if we can get adequate accuracy at such a long range)
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Yesterday, our prototype shooter (CIM and miniCIM directly driving 2 8" AM pneumatic wheels) was easily firing across our 30' practice room with little vertical drop.

How are your motors holding up? We were using an 8 inch AndyMark FIRST directly mounted on a mini-CIM shaft and got some good shots until the motor bearing gave out.
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How are your motors holding up? We were using an 8 inch AndyMark FIRST directly mounted on a mini-CIM shaft and got some good shots until the motor bearing gave out.
So far they're ok as the motor is well supported, but we haven't run it much yet.
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Re: How far are people shooting?

i believe our robot will be capable of shooting from feeder station but i fear a defensive robot will park infront of us nd block us. is that legal?
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i believe our robot will be capable of shooting from feeder station but i fear a defensive robot will park infront of us nd block us. is that legal?
As long as they adhere to space restrictions, yes.

There is no rule against simply being in the way of a shooting robot, but there are plenty of rules you could break while doing so (pinning, etc). See section 3.2.6 "ROBOT-ROBOT Interaction" of the game manual for more information.

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Re: How far are people shooting?

FIRST team 4057 has a prototype shooting accurately from 55 feet out at 60% power. It was at this time we realized the hazards of testing inside as we ramped up the power and put a dent in the duct system in the school.
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