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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

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I'm sure sharing the source excel file will also be appreciated. My team will see your work so far. I hope it ignites their interest in scouting.
After we update it with the previously mentioned corrections, I will upload the Excel file.

I'm really glad that this sheet was received so well by the community. As a second year team, scouting was not a priority last year, but we're hoping to make it better this year.
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Good point, I totally missed that! Thanks Taylor! Akash, good point about moving pit scouting to the back. We might also move the field drawing to the back too, giving more space for notes. We can also use the extra space on the front to increase the sizes of some of the boxes, giving more space for tallies, as Mike suggested.
If you expect to write on that field diagram during the match you'll probably be better off keeping it on the front. Back-n-forth page flipping will complicate your scouts' job.
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If you expect to write on that field diagram during the match you'll probably be better off keeping it on the front. Back-n-forth page flipping will complicate your scouts' job.
That's a good point. Our line of thought was that we would mark their general shooting position at the end of the match, not every shot they take. For instance, do they primarily shoot from behind the pyramid, under the pyramid, the feeder station, etc.?
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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

We've always used a paper system. This sheet was a great base (with some changes) for our scouts at bayou regional. It really shows a team's progress throughout the tournament. Thanks for posting the scout sheet!
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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

We were just discussing this today at Mt. Olive and Chris Pham and Emmett are very happy that these were well made and were used by some top teams. These two are slowly perfecting 3929's scouting system.
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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

Here are our cards based off of yours Read more about how accurate they worked (SUPER accurate) for us down in KC!
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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

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Computers can be helpful to calculate averages for individual teams, though. Which is one of the things we use to put teams into the first-level strata.

What do you do to help reduce the inevitable differences in "driving level 3" between different scouters? And looking at the sheet again, I realized that I missed that you don't record any defense; how come?
I agree that number-crunching with computers can be very helpful and it is something we might look into doing on Friday night. Average score and shooting percentage are two very important stats that can be difficult to deduce from raw data.

Also, for the "driving level", the numbers are loosely based off the numbers of years that person has been driving (1= first year, 2= second year, 5= greater than four years!, however this is more of a qualitative stat than it is a quantitative one.
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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

This beats the heck out of any other paper only scouting system I've seen before, kudos to that.

I notice that you're trying to keep track of fouls, how do you plan on doing so? Since they went to the real time scoring with fouls last year, they no longer announce the fouls at the end of a match. We found that even experienced scouts were unable to track all of the other robot actions going on and still be on top of the fouls the entire time. Technical fouls are still easy because they are announced at the end of the match. Not sure if we'll be tracking fouls this year. While it is important, we'd rather have no data and not have the scouts worried about it than have very misleading data which misrepresents teams' actions.
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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

Great Scouting sheet. We have incorporated many of your same attributes into a web-based tablet application. This gives our drive team real-time statistics for strategy planning. We are heading to St. Louis and our intent is to scout all 4 divisions. We would love to share our application with anyone that will help with a little manpower scouting.
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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

Cool to see how many teams used this. Great work Emmett and Chris!
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Cool to see how many teams used this. Great work Emmett and Chris!
Kudos to them! And the accuracy we were able to figure out Saturday's results in KC was astonishing 97%! Great job Emmett and Chris for making a card and KISS'ing it!
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Re: Team 3929 Scouting Sheet

It's very neatly organized and it can be super helpful. What a great idea!
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