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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Well us as relative new team we actually didn't know that yelling ROBOT is kind of offensive for many people. This our third season (and my first) but we try not to say ROBOT because actually everyone can see people walking with a robot. We'll try to ask to move more politely with phrases such as "excuse me please"
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

I personally don't have much of a problem with it provided they are not being rude. The kids seem to have some fun with it so as long as they are not offending people...I'm fine with it. No place for being rude though....and "please" goes a long way!
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Just another anecdotal piece, one of my students told me he was commanded to yell ROBOT by a safety advisor on the way to queue at Midwest today.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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Just another anecdotal piece, one of my students told me he was commanded to yell ROBOT by a safety advisor on the way to queue at Midwest today.
Could you try to speak to the lead safety advisor at the event? I'd be very interested to know where the "mandatory" practice is coming from. (And, you could also point out that there are other methods that are more polite, and possibly even safer, than yelling ROBOT.)
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

While I agree that yelling "ROBOT" in the pit is completely unnecessary, I think that people should give people an idea that the robot is there. I'm not exactly the most observant person out there, so I would not be likely to notice a robot moving through. My favorite solution was Team 134's solution at DC, which was singing to the tune of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" "Ro-Ro-Ro-Robot, coming down the isle. If you'd please step aside, that would make us smile."
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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While I agree that yelling "ROBOT" in the pit is completely unnecessary, I think that people should give people an idea that the robot is there. I'm not exactly the most observant person out there, so I would not be likely to notice a robot moving through. My favorite solution was Team 134's solution at DC, which was singing to the tune of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" "Ro-Ro-Ro-Robot, coming down the isle. If you'd please step aside, that would make us smile."
I love it. I think this has the potential of being much less irritating, but without killing the fun some teams seem to get out from the yelling. Perhaps teams could try to come up with their own variation on this.

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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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I love it. I think this has the potential of being much less irritating, but without killing the fun some teams seem to get out from the yelling. Perhaps teams could try to come up with their own variation on this.

Soft robot,
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Whurr, whurr, whurr.
I don't understand this notion that teams are entitled to have fun by yelling at the expense of others.

Also, if yelling is the most fun thing about a FIRST event, you should probably reevaluate your involvement.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Update from the Colorado regional:
Thus far very few have yelled "robot", there are plenty of "excuse me"

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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Disclaimer: This is my opinion, please do not give me little red dots for expressing it, controversial though it may be.

Background on me, as context: I'm fairly new to FIRST; I joined last year as a senior in high school, caught FIRST Fever, and came back to mentor my team as a college mentor.* I admit I've spent more time in the stands than in the pits at competitions (usually less "in" the stands than in front of them, where an area is usually set up for people to dance**), but I have spent my share of time in the pits, whether talking about the robot as a "pit ambassador" last year or just wandering around collecting buttons when I wasn't needed elsewhere.

What I've seen, as regards the shouting of "Robot": I haven't seen it being a problem. I've never witnessed teams caterwauling at the top of their lungs; instead, I saw teams approach a congestion point and say "robot" at a volume just above a normal speaking voice, at which point those blocking the aisle would acknowledge with an echo of "robot" and clear it. No muss, no fuss. It is possible there were teams at the events I attended who did engage in the more objectionable behavior and I was elsewhere or simply didn't notice.*** Yes, I can see how those that do constantly scream "ROBOT" can quickly get annoying, and I do agree that unnecessary noise in the pits can cause safety issues, as can people crowding out of their pits and into the aisles. However, I'm not sure arguing about it on Chief Delphi is going to do much to resolve the issue.**** This thread has turned nearly as acrimonious as the ones on student-built versus mentor-built robots, and has done about as much to resolve the issue as those do. Thank you, sanddrag, for bringing the issue to our collective attention, but fourteen pages of debate is a bit much, no?

Again, this is my opinion. If you disagree with my opinion, please PM me rather than giving me negative rep. Thank you!



*Yes, I know this is not strictly recommended, I just couldn't stay away.
**The Pacific Northwest regionals tend to have lots of people dancing, though I understand that isn't necessarily the case elsewhere.
***Yes, I really am capable of not noticing someone screaming "robot" six inches from my ear. Huzzah for Asperger's Syndrome.
****Yes, I know some of the higher-ups in FIRST read Chief Delphi. My point still stands, because the root of the problem does not lie with them.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Yeah, it's always kind of annoyed me that people constantly yell "robot," especially when you stop paying attention to it. I have the "priviledge" of yelling "robot" in front of my team's robot this year when we return from the field. I try to avoid yelling when possible, but when I don't (even if there are no people in front of me), I am always told by someone that I should be yelling. I understand yelling in especially crowded zones, but a simple "excuse me" should be the standard procedure when someone is in the robot's path.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Only heard ROBOT yelled a few times at Crossroads, I did hear a LOT of excuse me please! Very nice!
I think it was due to the wide aisles, carts could move around easily even with an overflow of people around the pits.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

As chief Safety Captain for my team, I find it completely necessary to shout "ROBOT" At competitions.
Sometimes it gets carried away, but for the most part it's actually very helpful. It helps move things along in a quick and efficient manner, and creates a safer environment by reducing the chance of robot/human collision accidents, thus resulting in fewer injuries. Let me ask you this, would you rather keep everyone safe and reduce injuries considerably, and have to deal with a couple possible pesky chain-reaction shouts, OR Slow the movement of robots to the field, and produce a higher risk of injury to humans/robots?
I find the former option to be more appealing.
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The Robodox will not shout "Robot" (or any other word that implies that we have an inherent right of way) while moving our robots at an event. We will exercise courtesy when moving our robot, making sure that everyone is as safe as possible.

We will also graciously encourage other teams to follow our example.

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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

The issue comes in with the giant masses of people who hang around their pits, and won't move for politness (usually because they don't hear). and also, yelling that is fun to do, in my opinion
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The issue comes in with the giant masses of people who hang around their pits, and won't move for politness (usually because they don't hear). and also, yelling that is fun to do, in my opinion
Leave the cheering in the stands.

Speak up and/or tap them gently on the shoulder. Ask them nicely to move, they will move.
If you ask them nicely to move and they outright refuse, what makes you think that yelling would be any more effective?

Make your grandmother proud. Keep the noise pollution down in the pits.
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