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I would like it to be quieter at regionals as well. I hate all the excess noise and this would be a good way to start cutting back.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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Please, do not do either of these things at competition. If you shout "HUMAN" at the top of your lungs in response to someone shouting "ROBOT" at the top of their lungs (as people have mentioned doing earlier in the thread), you are contributing to the problem just as much as they are. It is not witty, it does not discourage bad practice, and it generates unneeded animosity. Don't do it.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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If you shout "HUMAN" at the top of your lungs in response to someone shouting "ROBOT" at the top of their lungs (as people have mentioned doing earlier in the thread), you are contributing to the problem just as much as they are. It is not witty, it does not discourage bad practice, and it generates unneeded animosity. Don't do it.
I agree completely. The appropriate response is a calm explanation of a better way to do things.

However, in a different context, it can generate amusement and appreciation. I've called out "HUMAN!" on a couple of occasions when a group of students was standing in the natural path of pedestrian traffic -- but never in the pits, and never in response to an inappropriate shout of "ROBOT!"
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Maybe I was in the right place at the right time, but I never heard it shouted at Hub City a few days ago.

Maybe Texans are just polite.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

I was a key volunteer at Inland Empire and spent almost all of my time there in the pits. I was amazed at the number of students who would shout "ROBOT!" while standing in their pits, sometimes when no robot was not moving near them!

I asked these students to stop shouting, explaining the pits are already noisy enough. One mentor asked me why I confronted his student for just having fun. Geez, I suppose it would be OK to shout in classrooms because it's fun, right??

I told the offending students (and several mentors) about this thread in CD. They didn't think I was serious. I hope at least a few took the time to check this thread to better understand the issue.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

I have been to Mcmaster-Carr's facility at Sante Fe Springs, I am amazed how crazy it is, and I never seen forklifts driven so fast. Yet, its so quiet. Everyone knows where they can stand and where shipments flow through. I was there for 2 hours and the only time I hear a forklifts horn is when they are driving through the parking lot. Sometimes quiet is important so you can hear the real emergency.
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Please, do not do either of these things at competition. If you shout "HUMAN" at the top of your lungs in response to someone shouting "ROBOT" at the top of their lungs (as people have mentioned doing earlier in the thread), you are contributing to the problem just as much as they are. It is not witty, it does not discourage bad practice, and it generates unneeded animosity. Don't do it.
I have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER yelled "Human" at the top of my lungs. I turn toward the yelling student and tell them "Human".
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I have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER yelled "Human" at the top of my lungs. I turn toward the yelling student and tell them "Human".
This isn't all that helpful, either, unless you follow it up by telling them that yelling is unproductive and contributes to an unsafe environment (in which case it doesn't really add anything).

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I don't think anyone would say that you can never call out "robot" if there is an emergency (think moving down an isle and a texting student approaching), just that nobody should be walking around screaming it at every possible chance.
This seems to me to be a correct appraisal of the situation.
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REFEREE!!!!!!

(I tried that once; didn't work.)
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

I tried not to yell it at the SD Regional, but just loudly pronouncing it did not help. People would continue to stand in the way even if I yelled it. It wasn't just general public in the pits either, it was other teams standing blatantly in the middle of the pathway and they still wouldn't move.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

While walking through the pits I have the sudden urge to shout robot and then quickly walk through crowds of people just to see their reaction.

Reminds me of that one video where the guy has the bicycle bell and he rings it to get past people on the street.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

In my many years in FIRST, I have seen people step backwards, unawares, into a robot that was in the crowded isle because nobody yelled "robot".

In a place where people who do not understand dangers can walk into them (IE a crowded and noisy pits, with thin isles), I will yell out the danger to them, including the word 'ROBOT'.

No one deserved to get injured to avoid another being annoyed.

Safety trumps annoyance in my book.
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In my many years in FIRST, I have seen people step backwards, unawares, into a robot that was in the crowded isle because nobody yelled "robot".

In a place where people who do not understand dangers can walk into them (IE a crowded and noisy pits, with thin isles), I will yell out the danger to them, including the word 'ROBOT'.

No one deserved to get injured to avoid another being annoyed.

Safety trumps annoyance in my book.
That's why have someone walk in front of the robot quietly and respectfully telling everyone, "Excuse us, we have a robot coming through".
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