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Saying "Robot" has been something I have done throughout my time in FRC. And this year, already, I have had to pull/push my team's cart around and people refused to get out of the way. If anything, in my opinion, experienced members need to enlighten incoming FIRST members that "Robot" generally means to clear a path for robots.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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Saying "Robot" has been something I have done throughout my time in FRC. And this year, already, I have had to pull/push my team's cart around and people refused to get out of the way. If anything, in my opinion, experienced members need to enlighten incoming FIRST members that "Robot" generally means to clear a path for robots.
Saying excuse me works just as well, and for those in the pits who aren't familiar with the subtle nuances of a competition it doesn't actually help.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

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Saying "Robot" has been something I have done throughout my time in FRC. And this year, already, I have had to pull/push my team's cart around and people refused to get out of the way. If anything, in my opinion, experienced members need to enlighten incoming FIRST members that "Robot" generally means to clear a path for robots.
No, "Excuse me" generally means to clear a path. "ROBOT" generally means whoever is screaming it at you is a bit of a jerk.

Update: I don't recall hearing any safety judges telling teams to do it last year.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Yeah, I would agree that shouting "ROBOT!" is annoying, but then again, I have been told by FRC Safety Advisors to yell it in previous years.

So until FIRST officially removes this requirement, and doesn't base a safety award off of it, I'll probably keep yelling it when the robot's moving around....
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Yeah, I would agree that shouting "ROBOT!" is annoying, but then again, I have been told by FRC Safety Advisors to yell it in previous years.

So until FIRST officially removes this requirement, and doesn't base a safety award off of it, I'll probably keep yelling it when the robot's moving around....
Previous years rules don't always roll over. If you can cite somewhere in the manual where it says you should yell robot then by all means follow the rules.
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Yeah, I would agree that shouting "ROBOT!" is annoying, but then again, I have been told by FRC Safety Advisors to yell it in previous years.

So until FIRST officially removes this requirement, and doesn't base a safety award off of it, I'll probably keep yelling it when the robot's moving around....
I have never seen this as a rule in any FRC manual.

It's important to be able to quickly and easily clear a path for large objects moving through a crowd. That's why things like airport carts (the ones with a couple of benches for elderly or disabled people to get a lift to their gate) have both buzzers and lights. But those drivers still do their best not to run people over!

The biggest problem I have with people yelling "ROBOT" while moving through the pits is many of them seem to think it gives them the right to just plow through. I have been hit by multiple robot carts at just about every event I've attended, and scolded quite a few teams about it.

Be polite, be cognizant of the fact that people won't just jump out of your way, and above all be patient!
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Yeah, I would agree that shouting "ROBOT!" is annoying, but then again, I have been told by FRC Safety Advisors to yell it in previous years.

So until FIRST officially removes this requirement, and doesn't base a safety award off of it, I'll probably keep yelling it when the robot's moving around....
It is not a requirement. And the Safety Award is not based on it. You can stop yelling it.

Heard it a few times, usually from teams that I figure didn't know better. If it wasn't right next to me, I didn't change direction or speed. (And most of the ones right next to me were "excuse us, robot moving" or something like that.)
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Yelling "Robot" or something similar was definitely needed at our events this year. While we always said "Excuse us" in addition, usually it was parents talking to teams who weren't aware and needed us to get their attention. If the first time didn't work, we'd tap their shoulder and kindly ask them to make way for us. Our robot needed constant repair at both our districts so time was certainly of the essence... if we weren't in such a rush I'm sure we would have been a bit more patient.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

So I can yell "ROBOT!" when the autonomous code goes awry and the robot goes shooting across the aisle into our neighbor's pit, right?
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

My team didn't yell robot, we said excuse me every once in awhile but our pit was right on the end, next to the ques so we didn't travel that far. Due to the way our robot sits on our cart, you can't see in front of you so we usually have one to two people walking along the side of the robot to lead where you are going and help move people out of the way, kinda escort the robot.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

As a human, there is NEVER any reason for a robot to push pass me, even if it has a human in tow yelling "Robot" (*)

As an adult, there is never a reason for a robot to push past me with a child in tow that is yelling "robot" (cute grand kids included)

As a robotics mentor there is never a reason for a roboteer to push past me a cart of metal parts presuming to be a "robot" yelling "Robot".

Match times are set and clearly posted. Time management is part of the competition challenge. Once you are yelling "Robot" you have lost. Time to send a human player to the field and the rest of you to go back to the pits to figure out what you are doing wrong. No check list, no running time keeper, poor planning the work you can do in a set pit change, set up and management of pit parts, tools, layout; having a "Pit Boss" that is in charge. 100's of things to think about. Think about and fix them. Don't run me over.

Which in any case the final solution does not end up with a human roboteer going "Robot". Fix your root cause, do not push onto me your teams problems.

(*) The only reason a robot should push past me is if it has an injured human, in which case it's yelling "Injured Human, Please let us past" Oh wait that's what the EMS teams do. And I quickly move aside taking other people with me to clear the path.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

While at this years Championship I was going down the corridor between the arena and the pits. Some team, 30 feet behind me, was yelling "Robot" where no one was anywhere near them (except me). I turned around and asked them politely to wait until they had a reason to yell and to say "excuse me" instead.
I saw allot of teams doing this, yelling "robot" just for the sake of yelling "robot"
This is like crying wolf too many times. People ignore the warning.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

At IRI, I did not hear a single team yell (or even say) "Robot!" anywhere at any time. It was so wonderful. So, that settles it. The world's best teams don't yell "Robot!"
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At IRI, I did not hear a single team yell (or even say) "Robot!" anywhere at any time. It was so wonderful. So, that settles it. The world's best teams don't yell "Robot!"
What was really impressive was when you were moving your robot people would get out of your way without having to say a word. You could come up to a large group of people talking and they would just part like the red sea.
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Re: Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

I always yell "rowboat" instead of "robot."
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