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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

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You mean like a robot?
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

As a referee, I would have to say no! Only because by the end of the day on Friday at a normal event I am already beat. The judgement, comprehension and patience of the referee crew would be paper thin by morning matches the next day.
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The judgement, comprehension and patience of the referee crew would be paper thin by morning matches the next day.
Could make for some funny video to watch later - everyone involved would be getting pretty loopy.
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

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As a referee, I would have to say no! Only because by the end of the day on Friday at a normal event I am already beat. The judgement, comprehension and patience of the referee crew would be paper thin by morning matches the next day.
Suspend all rules requiring refs (no penalties). Honor system.

Also, no bumpers, just because.
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

I'd be all for it. Where can I sign up?
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

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Suspend all rules requiring refs (no penalties). Honor system.

Also, no bumpers, just because.
Is anarchy an option here? Because I still want 45 seconds of blizzard play at the end. Sleep-deprived students + crazy amount of frisbees in the air = frisbees to the head will wake you up. Or knock you out.
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

This sounds like so much fun! Would you be willing to open it up to multiple locations? We might be able to work something out so that we can host one in Michigan!
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

I would be all for it, don't think my team would want to travel that far tho
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

I love the idea, I have also always wanted to see an offseason where the game is modified to run for like 10 minutes per match, but I guess for this game you would have to find a way to have the discs re-entered into the field.
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

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I love the idea, I have also always wanted to see an offseason where the game is modified to run for like 10 minutes per match, but I guess for this game you would have to find a way to have the discs re-entered into the field.
Sorry, but I don't see that working...There are already way too many matches where robots just sort of don't do much of anything. Also, we'd be lucky if we were able to do much of anything after a few minutes as our battery would start to drop really low under load.
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

I have done a lot of 24 hour races for Lemons and Chumpcar. This is a horrible and awesome idea at the same time.

Nelson Ledges calls theirs Longest Day. I would recommend hosting the weekend of the time change, and making it 25 hours long and calling it FIRST longest day.
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Re: "The 24" - Off-season Idea

Okay, I am going to attempt to reply to all of this at once.

We don't know exactly what venue we will want to host it at, but there are a number of places that have done all night events before (Relay for Life, etc).

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To add to my previous post: as someone on the planning committee for an off-season, this also sounds like a logistical nightmare.

For events hosted at a school, you need to have the custodial staff on hand. This would likely be hard to convince the district to allow, especially during the summer. I'd imagine events hosted at other venues have similar rules regarding having people from their own staff at the event. Just think what would happen if the bathrooms didn't get cleaned for the entire event. Gross.

Then there is the issue of concessions and having people to work them. Most of the volunteers that come from outside of the team end up in positions that require some knowledge of how an event goes (so things like queuing, field reset, reffing, etc.), which means most of our concessions are run by parents. Again, good luck getting parents willing to do this.

If you can figure out a way to make this work and take care of all those issues, then more power to you.

Perhaps a different idea would be 24 hours of robotics-related fun? Have teams come in the night before for an all-night social/movie night (and, of course, allow teams and individuals to opt out) followed by the competition the next day?

As far as concessions, there are lots of ways we can figure it out. We have people already willing to do it, but food can be handled in a number of different ways. For example, if one of the venues that I'm lobbying for ends up being it, we will be in the middle of Morgantown (one downtown, one on the Evansdale WVU campus). Both downtown Morgantown (with downtown WVU campus) and the north side (Evansdale) are thriving with shops, restaurants, etc. WVU's catering people have done lots of really large events, not the least of which are campus-wide festivities with 10,000-20,000 people, proms, conventions, etc. Most of the restaurants will probably be willing to donate coupons if they know hundreds of really hungry kids will be invading the streets of Morgantown. Plus, we've got some really dedicated and awesome people that have expressed interest in helping out.

As far as power tools, why don't we limit their use? From what I've seen at off-season events is that most teams don't need to do much repair/building/modifying because it's already done. This event tests your personal endurance levels, why not your robot too?

Lots of caffeine will be provided, definitely. Endless supplies. We're looking into some big-name sponsors for this.

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I also can't help but think people might, well, get a little bored. Imagine 20-21 hours straight of just qualification matches. You'd see the same teams playing each other over and over and over again. That's not really exciting.
You know, I never really thought of that. We will need to get creative, but I've got some ideas. Maybe we could do two competitions? With some kind of party or "robotics-related fun" in-between? Teams could also opt-in or out of the full 24 hours, and do just 12. The competition would start Friday night and into Saturday, so spectators off the street can wander in and see the excitement of kids competing after 12 hours or more straight. Around the time people will start wandering in on Saturday will be about the time for elims/awards ceremony, so now that I think about it, it won't be too bad. Especially if people are taking naps throughout the event.

This event will be coupled with a campus tour of West Virginia University, probably on Friday evening, led by students, faculty, and staff that can answer any questions you might have about attending WVU and why you should be a Mountaineer. For those of you that are looking into colleges, this would be a great opportunity to see a beautiful and growing campus (which, coincidentally, also houses an awesome FRC team, numerous other FTC/FLL teams, and a newly-started FIRST Alumni organization.
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Some of us here at MARS have an idea that keeps floating back up to discussion every year, but never gets anywhere.

"The 24!"

What does everybody think of having a 24-straight-hour survival-of-the-fittest off-season event? It would start sometime on a Friday or Saturday evening, run through the night, and have the elims sometime the next day. Teams would need to do some serious strategizing, such as having multiple drive teams to exchange throughout the event, and figure out all of the logistics of managing their personnel and keeping them rested. I mean, we all do late nights at robotics, don't we? I'm a non-engineering mentor, and I was even there with my students multiple times at 2:00am, and even at 4:00am one night this season. So, why not do this at competition? We never sleep at competitions, either (don't lie to yourself). So why not make it real? We could even try to get Mountain Dew or RedBull or someone of the like to sponsor the event.

So, what do you think? Good idea/bad? Would you be interested in participating?
I looked at it and originally thought it was a crazy idea... then I looked at it again and it still sounds like a crazy idea.

But crazy ideas tend to produce some excellent results. I think this is an excellent idea, although I'd imagine it'd be hard to get this organized and sponsored without it being an official FRC event.

Other than that, sounds pretty awesome, competitive and fun!
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I'm game but i might have some difficulty getting there.
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