Go to Post I've got a couple team members who have an incredible knack for destroying robot parts... - Tom Line [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Electrical
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2013, 21:50
otherguy's Avatar
otherguy otherguy is offline
sparkE
AKA: James
FRC #2168 (The Aluminum Falcons)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 430
otherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to behold
Why you should buy a decent wire crimper

I came across this link tonight and thought it was worth sharing. If your team is on the fence about spending a little extra money on a decent wire crimper, this should remove any doubt from your mind.

To summarize: a guy benchmarks a pretty wide variety of crimp tools (with videos). His test fixture uses a digital load cell to record the maximum force applied (in pounds) before the crimp connection fails.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...d.php?t=125926


(not all of these are featured in the videos)
__________________
http://team2168.org
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2013, 22:06
BurkeHalderman's Avatar
BurkeHalderman BurkeHalderman is offline
Casual Robot Observer
no team
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Oxford, OH
Posts: 95
BurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant futureBurkeHalderman has a brilliant future
Re: Why you should buy a decent wire crimper

This is pretty cool. We're looking to add to our tool collection and need a new crimper, we just have one and it always seems to get misplaced by the students so this couldn't have come at a better time. Thanks for sharing.
__________________
[2010-2014]: FRC 3266 Robots-R-Us: Founder and Alumni
2010 (5-5-1): Buckeye Regional; Driver
2011 (4-5-0): Buckeye Regional; CORI; CAGE Match; Drivetrain/Manipulator Operator
2012 (7-13-0): Buckeye Regional; Queen City Regional; CAGE Match; BPRC; Drivetrain Operator
2013 (25-15-1): Queen City Regional; Buckeye Regional; Crossroads Regional; CORI; Ohio State Champs; CAGE Match; BPRC; Drivetrain Operator
2014 (21-10-0): Crossroads Regional; Queen City Regional; Designer; Mechanical/Design Mentor

Founding an FRC team as an 8th grader sure wasn't easy, but it was totally worth it.

Get in touch with me:
Personal Facebook

I believe every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don’t intend to waste any of mine. – Neil Armstrong
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2013, 22:06
otherguy's Avatar
otherguy otherguy is offline
sparkE
AKA: James
FRC #2168 (The Aluminum Falcons)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 430
otherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to beholdotherguy is a splendid one to behold
Re: Why you should buy a decent wire crimper

Quote:
Originally Posted by yash101 View Post
You don't need too many wire strippers. Get two very high quality, durable and functional wire strippers that you can depend on. If your team is having an organized tool cabinet, something we don't have, you should be fine with just two good ones!
I'm not advocating purchasing more than one good wire crimper. The linked post quantitatively compare the different options out there, and help teams on tight budgets justify spending $50+ to replace a tool they already have, that may seem "ok" in their eyes currently.

The photo is illustrating the different types of crimpers which were benchmarked. Ranging from the $5 throwaway crimper/stripper combo tool that everyone starts with, all the way up to a $1000+ aerospace grade crimper.


Quote:
Originally Posted by BurkeHalderman View Post
This is pretty cool. We're looking to add to our tool collection and need a new crimper, we just have one and it always seems to get misplaced by the students so this couldn't have come at a better time. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful. Goodluck this coming season.
__________________
http://team2168.org

Last edited by otherguy : 10-12-2013 at 22:09.
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2013, 22:35
MikeE's Avatar
MikeE MikeE is offline
Wrecking nice beaches since 1990
no team (Volunteer)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: New England -> Alaska
Posts: 381
MikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond reputeMikeE has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Why you should buy a decent wire crimper

Great link.

My only slight criticism is that it shows performance with a skilled user.
We're not always so lucky so the missing dimension is how forgiving each crimptool is in the hands of lesser artisans.
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-12-2013, 23:35
Mr V's Avatar
Mr V Mr V is offline
FIRST Senior Mentor Washington
FRC #5588 (Reign)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Maple Valley Wa
Posts: 996
Mr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond reputeMr V has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Why you should buy a decent wire crimper

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeE View Post
Great link.

My only slight criticism is that it shows performance with a skilled user.
We're not always so lucky so the missing dimension is how forgiving each crimptool is in the hands of lesser artisans.
A ratcheting crimper is the most forgiving for untrained people. Once it has been set properly it won't release automatically until the crimp has been successfully completed. Using uninsulated terminals also helps dramatically improve the success rate as they are easier to visually verify proper orientation before crimping and that the crimp was properly completed.
__________________
All statements made on Chief Delphi by me are my own opinions and are not official FIRST rulings or opinions and should not be construed as such.




https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-...77508782410839
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 11-12-2013, 06:44
rfolea's Avatar
rfolea rfolea is offline
Registered User
AKA: Rick Folea
no team (Forsyth Alliance)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: US
Posts: 210
rfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant futurerfolea has a brilliant future
Re: Why you should buy a decent wire crimper

Quote:
Originally Posted by otherguy View Post
I came across this link tonight and thought it was worth sharing. If your team is on the fence about spending a little extra money on a decent wire crimper, this should remove any doubt from your mind.

To summarize: a guy benchmarks a pretty wide variety of crimp tools (with videos). His test fixture uses a digital load cell to record the maximum force applied (in pounds) before the crimp connection fails.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...d.php?t=125926


(not all of these are featured in the videos)

If you are looking for professional crimpers but can't afford them - look for the AutomationDirect Coupon in the KOP this year. You can use it to buy ANYTHING in their 13,000 part catalog, including high end crimpers:

(These are VERY similar to the blue handled ANCOR ones shown above)

BM-533 8-2 AWG
BM-534 22-10 AWG
BM-537 22-12 AWG
BM-539 10-6 AWG
BM5345 Kit with dies for all wires

And of course the lugs and zip ties to go with 'em: here
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:22.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi