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Not that I condone the use of images and resources one does not have legal right to, I do find it funny that people seem to care a lot more about a FRC logo up for sale just because it is from FIRST, when this kinda of 'Trademark infringement' happens all over the place on the internet.
That's the point and issue. Just because you see it everywhere online, doesn't mean that's the only way. There are honest people who do honest work. I see it all time and shake my head. I am in a field where out of 10 people, you'd have at least one person cheating the system and ruins it for the other 9.
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Not that I condone the use of images and resources one does not have legal right to, I do find it funny that people seem to care a lot more about a FRC logo up for sale just because it is from FIRST, when this kinda of 'Trademark infringement' happens all over the place on the internet.
It's all fun and games until someone losses an eye...
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Since your location is listed as Florida and the shipping location on the ebay item is Florida, Alex is making a pretty good assumption.

I have sent an email to Frank with the ebay link. They need to be made aware of this as things like this that go unspoken only hurt the teams that do ask permission to fundraise for their teams with the FIRST logo.
Glad you did that! For the sake of using the right channels in the future- anything regarding FIRST branding should be sent to marketing@usfirst.org rather than FRC staff. (I've already done so for this listing, including sending them the ChiefDelphi thread.)

This includes asking for PERMISSION to use the logo outside of the given branding standards (Easily accessible on usfirst.org - About Us>>Branding Standards), whether it's for sale or not.

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Not that I condone the use of images and resources one does not have legal right to, I do find it funny that people seem to care a lot more about a FRC logo up for sale just because it is from FIRST, when this kinda of 'Trademark infringement' happens all over the place on the internet.
FIRST obviously means a lot to the people on this forum. Also, the FIRST logo is a work of art done by someone (specifically, Jack Kamen - Dean's father.) That topic has been discussed many times on Chief, especially during the LogoMotion season. I think it's really nice that people are popping up to defend FIRST, as Chief is not a place where FIRST staff does that on their own.

Good going, FIRST community.
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Glad you did that! For the sake of using the right channels in the future- anything regarding FIRST branding should be sent to marketing@usfirst.org rather than FRC staff.
I would have done that if I had the email handy, but I didn't so I sent a quick note to Frank knowing he would be able to forward it to right folks.

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Re: FIRST car decals

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Since your location is listed as Florida and the shipping location on the ebay item is Florida, Alex is making a pretty good assumption.

I have sent an email to Frank with the ebay link. They need to be made aware of this as things like this that go unspoken only hurt the teams that do ask permission to fundraise for their teams with the FIRST logo.
I agree with the fact that the evidence point toward the fact that you are the one selling these. I do think it is nice to have the ability to get FIRST stickers, but the fact that it is going and hurting FIRST ideals (something that I believe all FIRST-loving people try to stand by). If you want to sell something, do it the right way.

GREAT JOB JIMMY!!
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