Aerial Assist Discussion Thread

[4AngryNutjobs]

this game is called aerial assist... what's the aerial part?

[alexander.h]

Originally Posted by 4AngryNutjobs

this game is called aerial assist... what's the aerial part?

The "aerial" part is when the robots pass the ball through the air (e.g., over the truss).

[Sean Raia]

Originally Posted by 4AngryNutjobs

this game is called aerial assist... what's the aerial part?

The part where throwing the ball in the AIR is awarded extra points?

I don't know, call it a hunch.

[alexander.h]

Originally Posted by Sean Raia

The part where throwing the ball in the AIR is awarded extra points?

I don't know, call it a hunch.

I think it's when you throw the ball over the truss ; there, you get 10 bonus points (if you score, of course).

[AndrewPospeshil]

Originally Posted by alexander.h

I think it's when you throw the ball over the truss ; there, you get 10 bonus points (if you score, of course).

But it seems to me no focus was placed on this. It was mentioned once briefly and then never again.

Maybe it's called Aerial Assault simply because, technically, it is an aerial game seeing as balls will be airborne and it alliterates (is that a verb?) but that seems a bit sketchy to me.

[brandon.cottrell]

I actually really like this game.

[Libby K]

Originally Posted by AndrewPospeshil

But it seems to me no focus was placed on this. It was mentioned once briefly and then never again.

Maybe it's called Aerial Assault simply because, technically, it is an aerial game seeing as balls will be airborne and it alliterates (is that a verb?) but that seems a bit sketchy to me.

Aerial Assist combines the throwing and catching of balls with cooperative alliance play. During a match, you're going to see balls popping up over the truss and into the goals pretty frequently. It'll be the main focus for spectators.

[bs7280]

I have a question about getting 30 assist points AND the over the truss + catching bonus:

After watching some of the field tour videos about assists, I learned that, in order to get all the assist points, you have to pass between color zones, and to the opposite sides of those color zones (different row and column if you will). And for the Over the truss + catch maneuver my first thought was to have a robot with an arm/elevator that lifts the ball over, and only a few feet away is a catching robot with a large bucket.

So, in order to get 30 assist points AND the over the truss with a catch, do you have to make some huge 20 foot pass across the field from one zone to the next in order to get all the points? or can you do a short pass like I said, then have the other robot drive into the different zone to get the same number of points?

[bs7280]

Do the supershifter gearboxes work with the new 2014 frame?

[Coin3]

Originally Posted by bs7280

So, in order to get 30 assist points AND the over the truss with a catch, do you have to make some huge 20 foot pass across the field from one zone to the next in order to get all the points? or can you do a short pass like I said, then have the other robot drive into the different zone to get the same number of points?

I believe doing so would only net you 2 assists. Assists are defined as "when a unique ALLIANCE ROBOT POSSESSES the ALLIANCE’S BALL in a unique ZONE (i.e. red, white, or blue ZONE) during a CYCLE." So passing the ball across the field from one robot to the other and then scoring would only count as 2 unique alliance robots possessing the ball in 2 unique zones, and therefore 2 assists. The "correct" way to get 3 assists with an over the truss catch would be for the furthest back robot (opposite alliance zone) to launch the ball over the truss, the second robot (white zone) catches it and passes it over to the third robot (alliance zone) who then scores it.

[andrewia]

It seems to me that "assisting" is the act of another robot possessing the ball in another zone; assistance is not defined by passing. That would mean one alliance robot could get the ball from outside (+10 pts.), pass it to a human player, and then the human passes the ball to another robot in another zone (+10 pts.). This means that robots with poor passing ability can use the human players. Human players can pass much quicker than robots (unless you have really good drivers and programs) so this might be a more efficient method of passing.

[mechanical_robot]

Originally Posted by npalm2849

What happens if a ball is stuck inside a robot during autonomous. Then you cannot score until you get that stuck ball out it seems. Hope FIRST fixes this issue.

That's a you & your team's problem not a FIRST problem. Find a way to combat this. Be innovative.

[marcusb258]

Our team heard that at 4pm we would be able to order the balls from FIRST Choice but when we go on their website, the balls arent there. Anyone have an answer or the same problem?

Thanks and good luck teams!!!

[Jhultink]

So, let's say all 6 robots miss their auto points and the balls all stay on the field. How will the refs keep track of all the balls and assists?

Or will assists not count until all the auto balls have been scored? If this is the case, wouldn't it be better to have some of your alliance partners not even do auto so that you can get assist point in Tele-op quicker?

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Jhultink

So, let's say all 6 robots miss their auto points and the balls all stay on the field. How will the refs keep track of all the balls and assists?

Or will assists not count until all the auto balls have been scored? If this is the case, wouldn't it be better to have some of your alliance partners not even do auto so that you can get assist point in Tele-op quicker?

ASSISTS count as part of a CYCLE. A CYCLE begins when the the PEDESTAL lights up.

3.1.2

Although an ALLIANCE may start a MATCH with up to three (3) BALLS, the PEDESTAL will only be illuminated when the last BALL that started the MATCH is SCORED, effectively reducing the number of BALLS in play per ALLIANCE to one (1).