YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

[MrRiedemanJACC]

My guess for a week 2 in Michigan

A good single team will get:
25 points in Auto
5 cycles with no passes, just a throw over the truss to yourself and score in the 10 point goal. 5*20

That alone gives a team 125 points.

Let me know what I'm missing there though. And 5 cycles is a lot, but by yourself with no objects in the field. Definitely doable.

I am guessing that with passing / assists / possession bonus, the truss and catch the absolute max score could be 435 points for an alliance. That is assuming 6 cycles across the field. Is that a ludicrous score or can it happen? Let me know what you think, but remember if it can be done it will be done....

[thursam]

Qual: 60
Elim: 90

I feel like qualification scores will be low/mid, as stated above, but as the matches go on and people can see and experience the game, the scores will get higher (but probably not by too much more.)

I also feel that, by eliminations, the scores will reach a peak of anywhere from 90 - 120 because the top eight teams will have a choice of their alliance partners, so they could - essentially - formulate the 'dream team.' And if they do have the 'dream team', then the points may be even higher.

[Charles Boehm]

I think a lot of these numbers are quite low, I would say that quals will be in the 70-80 range and elims will bejust higher, say...110? Keeping in mind that in elims we can assume a larger amount of points coming from autonomous.

[jacqlecl772]

qual: 50-100
taking in to account that 1 ball scored in hot goal is 20 pts and 1 ball scored in not hot goal will is 15 and about 75% of the robots will be shooting in high goal auto and almost all robots will get mobility points at the end of auto the score will be around 30-40 points and the lack of end game gives you longer teleop = more time to score more times so probably about 30 pts - 50 pts in teleop

elim: 100-200+
better robots better team work more time to talk with alliance therefore ore points

[carlgrass32]

It's a lot higher than I expected. 275? REALLY? By one alliance? Wow?

[Nathan Streeter]

My predictions for week 1:

Qualification Match Winning Scores Average: 45 (in no small part due to fouls)
Qualification Match Losing Scores Average: 25

Elimination Match Winning Scores Average: 90 (about half auto, half tele)
Elimination Match Losing Scores Average: 60

For the most part I think defense will *really* slow alliances down... If you can make life really difficult for the robot that has the ball, the whole alliance's progress is essentially stopped.

That said, I think there will be some alliances in Week 1 that are quite good (3 "mobilities" in auto, 2 or 3 high balls in auto, and either 4+ cycles of 20 points or 3+ cycles of 30 points)... I expect that 150 will be broken week 1.

*I'm* really curious to see how my predictions turn out!

[Qcom]

Originally Posted by Nathan Streeter

For the most part I think defense will *really* slow alliances down... If you can make life really difficult for the robot that has the ball, the whole alliance's progress is essentially stopped.

This is a huge concern on my part. I think that a box on wheels with a decent amount of torque could really put a wrench in some alliances' plans.

Personally, I'm thinking about 50 points a match for quals, 75-100 for elemination.

[Joseph1825]

I might be being too optimistic here but I think a well constructed alliance can score about 290. (5 cycles of 50 points + ~40 points from autonomous) I would guess an average score for eliminations will be 175. (4 cycles of 40 + 15 from auto) However, in qualifications when you have to work with random partners I think the average score will go down to 95.

[Caleb Sykes]

Normally, in AUTO, I predict that the average robot scores 0. This is to safeguard myself from overestimating (if I were to put a real number on AUTO, I would say 10, but certainly not anything above 15 as some are predicting). I will stick to that trend here. Just look to 2008 to see that something as simple as driving forward should not be considered a "gimme". Also, people seem to forget that some of your robots might be playing as a goalie on the other side, meaning that they will not get those 5 movement points.

After AUTO, teams will spend on average the first 30 seconds scoring the balls that they missed in AUTO, most of these in the low goal. This means that the average alliance still has 0 points*. After that, alliances will have 2 cycles, 1 30 point cycle and 1 20 point cycle, for a total qualification average of 50 points.

*For all intents and purposes, the low goal is worth 0 points.

[Rynocorn]

I will predict that the average alliance will score 35 in prelims and then 60 in finals. I would guess higher, but the scores always seem to be lower than someone would typically exspect. Also defence will probably prevent a high scoring game. (I'll add 10 points to prelims and 30 to finals if there is an endgame, even without knowing it )

[Qcom]

Originally Posted by inkling16

Also, people seem to forget that some of your robots might be playing as a goalie on the other side, meaning that they will not get those 5 movement points.

I'm confused, are you saying that some people will start their bots on the opposing alliance's goalie zone? Because you cannot have your robot pass the truss until tele-op, as per G15.

[Caleb Sykes]

Originally Posted by Qcom

I'm confused, are you saying that some people will start their bots on the opposing alliance's goalie zone? Because you cannot have your robot pass the truss until tele-op, as per G15.

3.2.2.1 G4
When placed on the FIELD, each ROBOT must be:
A. in compliance with all ROBOT rules (i.e. have passed Inspection),
B. confined to its STARTING CONFIGURATION,
C. entirely within their GOALIE ZONE, or
entirely within the white ZONE and between the TRUSS and their GOALS, and
D. fully supported by the floor.

3.2.4.1 G15
During AUTO,
A. a ROBOT starting in the white ZONE may not cross fully beyond the TRUSS
B. a ROBOT starting in its GOALIE ZONE must remain in contact with the carpet in its GOALIE ZONE.

You are correct in your understanding of robots that begin in the white ZONE, but robots may also begin in the GOALIE ZONE. These robots would be ineligible for the movement points.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Wk1 winning scores:
Seeding average: 25 points
Elim average: 65 points

Einstein winner: 200+ points

and for my bold prediction:
1 match at IRI will exceed 450 points

[Qcom]

Originally Posted by inkling16

You are correct in your understanding of robots that begin in the white ZONE, but robots may also begin in the GOALIE ZONE. These robots would be ineligible for the movement points.

I realized that when the new Team Update was released, my bad.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

Week 1 prediction for average score per alliance in quals - 20, elims - 40 to 50

Oh wow, I completely neglected auton points.

With auton, in week 1 -

average qual - 35
average elim - 65 to 70