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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

Are you planning to 3D print it?
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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

Yeah!, We already did and mounted it looks great and we will be able to test it tomorrow
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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

What's the reason for making this?
Need more oomph to shift, or maybe multiple positions?
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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

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What's the reason for making this?
Need more oomph to shift, or maybe multiple positions?
How would you accomplish more than two positions with two cylinders? If they have different strokes, won't one just fight the other (not to mention cantilevering the coupling)?

If this for extra shifting power though, I would like to know what application it's being used for that requires a second cylinders to accomplish.
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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

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If this for extra shifting power though, I would like to know what application it's being used for that requires a second cylinders to accomplish.
Betcha they're trying to shift a winch from windup to FIRE! and one cylinder wasn't cutting it. That was a pretty hot topic of discussion a week or two ago.
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Betcha they're trying to shift a winch from windup to FIRE! and one cylinder wasn't cutting it. That was a pretty hot topic of discussion a week or two ago.
Paul Copioli said it would theoretically still neutral with a 400 lb winch, but so far as I know, no one has actually tested this yet. I would love to see some video (or at least pictures) of someone using the standard piston and having it NOT neutral.
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Paul Copioli said it would theoretically still neutral with a 400 lb winch, but so far as I know, no one has actually tested this yet. I would love to see some video (or at least pictures) of someone using the standard piston and having it NOT neutral.
we were doing it with only a single piston at 60psi. we ended up having to up our regulator to even test. That is why we added the second cylinder. It works marvelously.
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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

Don't suppose that you would be willing to share the cad files for this. Or offer to print another one for a small price? We were having the same issue last night testing our winch.
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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

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Don't suppose that you would be willing to share the cad files for this. Or offer to print another one for a small price? We were having the same issue last night testing our winch.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4mveor2l36...oupling.SLDPRT
just print 2 and they mesh together
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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

Do you care to share the mounting plate as well?
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Re: pic: coupling for dual cylinder ballshifter

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How would you accomplish more than two positions with two cylinders? If they have different strokes, won't one just fight the other (not to mention cantilevering the coupling)
Ah right, you can accomplish two different positions with two cylinders, but not if it is mounted to he same coupling. Yes, if they were different length strokes it would probably just shatter the coupling.

Long day of troubleshooting, must sleep.

I am surprised the ball shifter would need a 2nd piston based on Paul's (theoretical) math, but the extra help won't hurt and it's still nowhere near the force needed for a dog gear. Much more compact than a big bore cylinder and a lever arm!
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