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Re: Week 2 Analysis

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I couldn't tell conclusively from the Q5 video which infraction you might be referring to. Did they call pinning on you? Or did the head ref call an HP violation?

As for Q24, there was definitely a noticeable amount of time before you were able start the next cycle.

I'm sorry to hear that you guys were impacted like many others this weekend. At least you can be thankful that you still have two more events ahead of you.

Great looking robot and I'm sure you'll make a strong showing at the next two.
I was referring to the last second out of bounds tech foul call on our partner. Check the near right of the screen.

We personally were called for one (debatable) herding tech foul the entire weekend. Our partners, however, were not so lucky. And our opponents got away with a few things in some matches that we and our partners were called for in others. Inconsistency just bugs the heck out of me.

Thank you for the compliment - we've got lots to improve upon in the offensive execution area, responding to self-generated issues, as well as insulating ourselves from externally-generated blar. Our drivetrain is quite the equalizer, however. It tends to get us further in the elims that we realistically should get.
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I was referring to the last second out of bounds tech foul call on our partner.

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Thank you for the compliment - we've got lots to improve upon in the offensive execution area, responding to self-generated issues, as well as insulating ourselves from externally-generated blar. Our drivetrain is quite the equalizer, however. It tends to get us further in the elims that we realistically should get.
I definitely spent some time watching this. Something was rather soothing or elegant about the rhythm. If you can put this kind of practice to work and get a routine going on the field, I'm confident you'll perform well.
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Re: Week 2 Analysis

48 looked awesome in the elimination rounds....consistent refereeing was indeed a concern. Good luck to 48 Elite in the rest of the season... you owe me and Nick a dinner at the Keg LOL...just kidding. Come up in the summer for a back-yard steak Travis. Just bring the Boston Lager.
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Also, here's video that clearly shows a pedestal lighting delay near the end of Q24, a five point loss that a truss would have erased, had we been given the time we deserved to execute it.
Sorry, I don't see any delay. Note that the red pedestal isn't actually visible in the video.

For red:
- HP has red ball at :16
- Low goal :39
- HP has ball :45
- High goal 1:22
- HP has ball 1:27
- Low goal 2:17
- HP has ball 2:25

For blue:
- Low goal :58
- Pedestal lit 1:00
- Low goal 2:01
- Pedestal lit 2:05
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Sorry, I don't see any delay. Note that the red pedestal isn't actually visible in the video.

For red:
- HP has red ball at :16
- Low goal :39
- HP has ball :45
- High goal 1:22
- HP has ball 1:27
- Low goal 2:17
- HP has ball 2:25

For blue:
- Low goal :58
- Pedestal lit 1:00
- Low goal 2:01
- Pedestal lit 2:05
So blue's pedestal lit far more quickly on average? Interesting....

I consider 8 seconds to be a ridiculously excessive amount of delay waiting for all human and computerized decision makers to verify that yes, indeed, the big colored ball went into one of the big colored goals. Many people are reporting 10 seconds or more of delay? Is ball scored? Yes? It takes 1 second or so to make this realization? Then turn the $@#$@#$@#$@# pedestal on. Whether ref or FMS caused, FIX THE PROBLEM.

The fun part is red's pedestal lit three seconds after the already 8 second delay had occurred just prior to the last red hp pickup, so the total delay was 11 seconds. The coach of the hp just said screw it and told him to pick it up. ZOMG SHOULD HAVE BEEN TECH FOULED FOR THEIR EGREGIOUS IGNORING OF THE BROKEN SYSTEM THAT TAKES 20,000 YEARS TO REGISTER A SCORE.

FIX. THE. PROBLEM.

Here's a thought - the pedestal light be damned. Station a single volunteer at each pedestal whose sole responsibility is to watch for alliance scores and yell GO when it's ok to pick up the ball. Does that cost too much in free t-shirts and meals to employ?
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So blue's pedestal lit far more quickly on average? Interesting....
Nope. The red pedestal is not visible in the video, so it is not possible to tell if either pedestal lit more slowly than the other.
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