When will Divisions be released?

[DavidG]

In regards to the 2010 Finals... I think that 1114, 469, and 2041 lost because they implemented a strategy that didn't utilize the strengths of 1114. 1114 was the best far/mid zone robot all year long.

When they got behind, and the balls were not in 469's cycle, they should have adjusted their strategy, and put 1114 in the mid zone to collect the balls and put them back in 469's loop. There was way too many balls in the middle and far zone, with nobody on 469's alliance there to put them in the goal (and therefore put them in the loop). Of course, when 2041 got stuck in the goal there wasn't much they could do.

That's just my 2 cents. I was only in 7th grade when I watched those matches... so don't take my opinion too seriously.

[kaliken]

So to help everybody's memory in that finals.. As i was there too...basically we knew it would be a dog fight with the 469 cycle with 1114 putting in misses. Adding 2041 to play counter defense made our life difficult. the goal was not to react to the cycle but to force the cycle direction. This allowed us to clear enough balls to enable our alliance to catch up. Obviously it worked as we won match one...Winning match two we took lessons we learned from our regional win, as we were always looking for a robot to pin in the goal. So you will see we took the opportunity to intentionally push 2041 deeper into the goal after the auto period. Then blocking the other goal made the best sense. Luck or curse you can believe what you want.

[MARS_James]

To bring this thread back to it's original purpose and not

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Every year, people ask when will Divisions be released? FIRST typically doesn't provide advance notice. Here's when they have been released in the past.

In 2012 and 2013, the divisions were released on a Wednesday, 8 days before the beginning of the championship (4 days after the end of the Michigan and MAR championships).

It looks like we will not be meeting this deadline this year since we are sitting at 397 teams right now

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

It looks like we will not be meeting this deadline this year since we are sitting at 397 teams right now

I might be wrong, but IIRC Divisions were released last year (or the year before) before they were full, and teams were added on after they were announced.

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by Hallry

I might be wrong, but IIRC Divisions were released last year (or the year before) before they were full, and teams were added on after they were announced.

Coming from someone with firsthand experience, FIRST is adding teams up until the very last possible minute. The logistics surrounding releasing divisions don't have to fully cooperate with the logistics of plucking teams out of a lineup to ship them off to Missouri. I think they were taking teams off the waitlist last year through Friday the 19th and may actually have put in a couple more checks on the 22nd (yes, the Monday before champs). Division were released 5 days before the preliminary schedules were released

[Peter Matteson]

Originally Posted by Hallry

I might be wrong, but IIRC Divisions were released last year (or the year before) before they were full, and teams were added on after they were announced.

This has been done multiple times in the past where teams registered late for one reason or another.

They will add the late teams in at the end if there are any, but robots have to ship tomorrow so that deadline is pretty firm.

[Basel A]

Threw together a quick PDF of divisional team oprs. Archimedes does look the weakest. Newton probably the strongest at the top end, with Galileo the deepest.

[GearsOfFury]

Originally Posted by tstew

All of the divisions on one graph:

Does it add to the curse if I say this proves it *has* to be the year to end the curse....? :-)

[GearsOfFury]

Originally Posted by Hallry

However, they might automatically filter out some teams, since none of the waitlist teams that got in this year attended World Champs last year. I know that 5 out of the 6 waitlist slots this year went to 4176, 357 714, 2073, and the lucky 400th team, 48. I'm unsure who the 6th waitlist team was, but they're registered in the bunch somewhere.

Wait list registration first opens to teams that did not attend Champs the year before. It then opens to all teams a few weeks later. So, that's the "filter".

Seems like a safe bet that we will rarely if ever get to that second group again, unless they move Champs to some location that causes a lot of invitation declines (which would be a shame).